re: The Secret Service officer fired five shots with his handgun at WHCD. None hit the target.

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I’d put money that any gun owning poster goes at least 1/5

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I would take that bet. There is a huge difference between shooting at the range and shooting during a crisis.

I'm sure we have many posters here who would go 5/5, but we also have many who, like the SS agent would go 0/5. Does anyone think that people like Bunk Moreland, who cries over narco-terrorists getting blown out of the water running drugs would be able to take someone down in a crisis? Dude would be in the corner pissing his pants.

Didn't catch that in the video. There's another lady with a pony tail standing right next to whatever that is that fired some shots too.

I guess both were SS, but both did some extremely dangerous and negligent discharging of their firearms

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I guess both were SS, but both did some extremely dangerous and negligent discharging of their firearms

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Not negligent if they are firing blanks.

Somebody needs to show where these bullets went so we can dispense with the rumors

If you guys want to see the bullet casings then travel up to the FBI building in DC and ask their evidence tech if you can see them. You act as if you are owed seeing the evidence before the jury does.

Everything will be shown at trial. There is no conspiracy. Shots were fired and they went somewhere, Law enforcement has all that. What do you want to see, a bunch of small holes in sheet rock or carpet?

They released the video almost immediately. They didn’t hide the video of the incident or the video of him the day before. Why would they release any of that if they were trying to run a scam.

And they do run risk scenarios - for the actual visit. You are hung up on the attacker being able to walk around the hotel before it was secured. Maybe you should ask the Hilton or any hotel why they let their customers just walk around the property. Guess what? Right now there are thousands of random people walking over the inaugural parade route where the POTUS will be in 2 years. Should we close down the roads now? Or should we wait until the actual event happens?

Just wait until they start stopping traffic an hour before a visit and see how quickly everyone whines and complains. Go back and read the articles about his visit to the US Open in September where the press and fans whined for days about having to wait in lines for the mags because he decide to attended. The plan worked because even with the element of surprise and his speed he got grabbed.

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The honest truth is Trump unprofessional and non serious existence seeps into any and everything around him… his SS detail is shite because he jokes around with them and probably has them looking into nobodies on the internet disagreeing or telling jokes about him…

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Did you take a special class where they trained you to talk out of your arse, or were you born with that talent?

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On the video the dog alerted to the room, if you zoom in you can see the dog handler was talking to someone. He turns his back and the gunman runs out?

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He runs out a split second later.

How did that guard not see a shotgun in his hands? WTF?

I wonder why the dog was interested in the guy....

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I wonder why the dog was interested in the guy....

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They are trained to sense even the slightest bit of elevated heart rate and stress through sweat glands and body language. Even your untrained dog at home notices this about you and those it's familiar with, with no training. They are much more observant and intelligent than most people realize, they can sense things like the difference in sweat glands from one second to the next or changes in posture, changes in breathing, changes in heart rate.

They're also trained to smell gunpowder, metal, lead, explosives, even polyurethane. That dog picked up that something wasn't right with the guy - he was undoubtedly nervous and his smell and body language were dead giveaways - and most likely picked up on the gunpowder as well.

I've seen some police dogs do some incredible things, this one picking up on this guy before he even did anything isn't surprising at all.

Sargeant Snickers is the hero of this story

The shotgun was hidden and he altered the stock to make the shotgun small enough to conceal. The pics of the shotgun were already released so you can clearly see how he altered the gun to fit under his coat. The handler of the dog never saw the gun because it was hidden - that’s why they stripped him after tackling him because he had hidden compartments in his clothes. And the dog is a bomb dog not an attack dog. The guy got lucky that the moment he started sprinting the dog handler’s head was turned and the agent in the suit had his head turned. They had probably been on duty for 8-12 hours at that point and aren’t staring down a hall the entire time especially when all guests are in and the doors are closed and secured.

If the guy would have gotten down the stairs to the next level of security then I’d agree it was cluster but the guy was caught when he first contacted law enforcement. I bet they’ll move the mag checkpoint out further and then the hotel and citizens will complain when traffic and customers not attending will have to wait in long lines just to get into the hotel.