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The REAL reason for this "new gay marriage" push? MTG Tweet, so I dunno.
Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:32 am
Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:32 am
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I got confused over the same sex marriage bill. I thought it was already legal. My cousin is gay and he got married years ago, so I looked into the bill. Ahhh, it will allow the IRS, to revoke the tax-exempt status of churches that hold fast to traditional marriage.
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Well done!
This is what it looks like when people read the actual bills instead of the headlines, you actually find out the truth and why Members like me vote NO.
It’s not about gay marriage, it’s about Christian persecution.
MTG Twitter
This post was edited on 11/17/22 at 11:06 am
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:36 am to LookSquirrel
No such law or attempt would withstand Constitutional scrutiny.
Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:38 am to LookSquirrel
Paying taxes isn't persecution. They should revoke all their exempt status'
Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:39 am to MMauler
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No such law or attempt would withstand Constitutional scrutiny.
15 years ago no one would have thought gay marriage would withstand scrutiny.
I’d like to believe your statement correct, but in these times it’s likely not.
Hell, I expect to see Christians start to make the fish symbol in the dirt to quietly identify one another in my lifetime the way they did in the early church. I truly think the persecution will reach that level. I pray I’m strong enough in my faith to take it.
Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:40 am to Mid Iowa Tiger
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15 years ago no one would have thought gay marriage would withstand scrutiny.
I’d like to believe your statement correct, but in these times it’s likely not.
Hell, I expect to see Christians start to make the fish symbol in the dirt to quietly identify one another in my lifetime the way they did in the early church. I truly think the persecution will reach that level. I pray I’m strong enough in my faith to take it.
Holy victim complex, batman
Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:40 am to j1897
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Paying taxes isn't persecution. They should revoke all their exempt status'
Why do you want to tax charitable organizations?
Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:41 am to LookSquirrel
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it will allow the IRS, to revoke the tax-exempt status of churches that hold fast to traditional marriage.
How is the IRS going differentiate between Churches that do/don't support Traditional marriage? Are they going to send every Church in the US a questionnaire, or send gay couples and request gay marriage ceremonies ?
Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:42 am to j1897
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Paying taxes isn't persecution. They should revoke all their exempt status'
They should do that right after they stop giving tax refunds to people who don't work.
Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:44 am to GWM
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How is the IRS going differentiate between Churches that do/don't support Traditional marriage?
I guess the same way they know who among us here are "Domestic Terrorists"
Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:44 am to LookSquirrel
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Ahhh, it will allow the IRS, to revoke the tax-exempt status of churches that hold fast to traditional marriage.
Not trying to play the sceptic, but a tweet doesn’t mean it’s real. Is there a link saying this is real?
Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:45 am to j1897
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Paying taxes isn't persecution. They should revoke all their exempt status'
Read the first amendment.
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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances
Apparently there is lots of case law that taxing churches is tantamount to establishing a religion by the government.
Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:48 am to Revelator
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Not trying to play the sceptic, but a tweet doesn’t mean it’s real. Is there a link saying this is real?
Just going by what Marjorie Taylor Greene said in her tweet I provided.
This post was edited on 11/17/22 at 11:03 am
Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:48 am to GWM
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How is the IRS going differentiate between Churches that do/don't support Traditional marriage? Are they going to send every Church in the US a questionnaire, or send gay couples and request gay marriage ceremonies ?
OP didn't think their little fantasy scenario through
Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:49 am to LookSquirrel
If the link to the actual bill I found in the replies is correct, then they are wrong. Read section 6. And btw, I am a Christian Conservative. This crap makes us look bad……. LINK
Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:49 am to LookSquirrel
Churches in general should do away with their own tax exempt status. I am certainly not in favor of taxes, in fact quite the opposite. Taxation is theft, but the government uhas been using the tax exempt status to get churches to go along with the narrative for years, Covid restrictions being the prime example. Chuck Baldwin has been screaming this for years.
Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:50 am to LookSquirrel
Stepping outside the context of gay marriage for a second...
Why are any churches of any religion exempt from paying taxes?
Why are any churches of any religion exempt from paying taxes?
Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:55 am to LookSquirrel
quote:Could you please line to either the statutory language or a legitimate new report from which one can FIND the statutory language, rather than to the Twitter feed of some random chick named "Kambree" throwing her thoughts against a wall to see whether they stick?
I got confused over the same sex marriage bill. I thought it was already legal. My cousin is gay and he got married years ago, so I looked into the bill. Ahhh, it will allow the IRS, to revoke the tax-exempt status of churches that hold fast to traditional marriage.
Thanks.
This post was edited on 11/17/22 at 10:59 am
Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:59 am to j1897
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Paying taxes isn't persecution. They should revoke all their exempt status'
No. This is incorrect
Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:59 am to j1897
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Paying taxes isn't persecution. They should revoke all their exempt status'
Can we say the same for all trusts, foundations, and charities?
Posted on 11/17/22 at 11:04 am to AggieHank86
Iowatiger covered it. 
In short, the OP is nonsense and as usual, MTG is full of it.
In short, the OP is nonsense and as usual, MTG is full of it.
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SEC. 6. NO IMPACT ON RELIGIOUS LIBERTY AND CONSCIENCE. (a) IN GENERAL.—Nothing in this Act, or any amendment made by this Act, shall be construed to diminish or abrogate a religious liberty or conscience protection otherwise available to an individual or organization under the Constitution of the United States or Federal law.
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(b) GOODS OR SERVICES.—Consistent with the First Amendment to the Constitution, nonprofit religious organizations, including churches, mosques, synagogues, temples, nondenominational ministries, interdenominational and ecumenical organizations, mission organizations, faith-based social agencies, religious educational institutions, and nonprofit entities whose principal purpose is the study, practice, or advancement of religion, and any employee of such an organization, shall not be required to provide services, accommodations, advantages, facilities, goods, or privileges for the solemnization or celebration of a marriage. Any refusal under this subsection to provide such services, accommodations, advantages, facilities, goods, or privileges shall not create any civil claim or cause of action.
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SEC. 7. STATUTORY PROHIBITION. (a) NO IMPACT ON STATUS AND BENEFITS NOT ARISING FROM A MARRIAGE.—Nothing in this Act, or any amendment made by this Act, shall be construed to deny or alter any benefit, status, or right of an otherwise eligible entity or person, including tax-exempt status, tax treatment, educational funding, or a grant, contract, agreement, guarantee, loan, scholarship, license, certification, accreditation, claim, or defense, provided such benefit, status, or right does not arise from a marriage.
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