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re: The level of naivety regarding the Iranian conflict is disturbing
Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:01 am to Roaad
Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:01 am to Roaad
quote:
Literally every argument you are making is from 2003
Verbatim
I'll say what I said then.
*ahem*
frick off
I especially love that you resurrected the bullshite "we fight them there, so we don't have to fight them here" bullshite "war on terror" argument.
quote:
Here are FACTS
1. America has real enemies. They are constantly working to destroy YOU and your way of life
2. You either fight these fights on American soil or abroad. You don't get the option of "staying out of it." Eventually, these conflicts will reach domestic shores if we are passive
This argument is as relevant as Reefer Madness
I've skimmed through the thread. So far, this post stands out. Have a Wednesday morning upvote.
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:01 am to somethingdifferent
quote:This is 100% correct. They hate us for Religious reasons.
Go to any terrorist in the desert and they will utter one word to you - INFIDEL.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:02 am to Roaad
quote:Did the Israelis strike first? "Create" Islamic terrorism? Strike civilian targets on purpose?
If your child gets killed in an Israeli strike, I bet you would be pretty peeved at the people who killed him
The answer to all of those questions is no. Any Iranian who is upset at a civilian being collateral damage needs to look at the history of their country/religion
quote:It's also an EFFECT, not the CAUSE
It is called insurgent math
NAIVE
Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:02 am to somethingdifferent
Ahh we’re in the coping stage of this debacle
Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:03 am to somethingdifferent
quote:
"Create" Islamic terrorism?
We were a big part of this...
quote:
Much like Al Qaeda, the Islamic State (ISIS) is made-in-the-USA, an instrument of terror designed to divide and conquer the oil-rich Middle East and to counter Iran’s growing influence in the region.
The fact that the United States has a long and torrid history of backing terrorist groups will surprise only those who watch the news and ignore history.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:03 am to SlowFlowPro
I remember when this board loved the surge
Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:04 am to Roaad
quote:Do we have enemies who want to destroy our way of life, yes or no? Yes. Is that sentiment political or religious? It's religious. Can we "stay out of it" or be passive and reactive and it not affect us? No. Those are facts
or maybe i fought in Iraq and Afghanistan
Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:04 am to somethingdifferent
quote:
I guess people don't realize that the freedom to speak out against foreign conflict is protected by a proactive strategy, not a reactive strategy
Agree with every word of your entire post - but this is a clincher argument that I've not seen before nor internalized in that succinct manner -
I may use that myself. :bow:
Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:04 am to RyanMartin835
quote:Tell me what I said that's not factual
OP never misses an episode of Levin or Sensei
It's amazing. No one will deal with the content. They just talk around it with emotion
Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:05 am to somethingdifferent
quote:
somethingdifferent
Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:05 am to FTBLFN
quote:Tell me what I said that's not factual
You swallowed the hook
Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:06 am to somethingdifferent
quote:
Even the liberal, America-hating NYT reported that Iraq had WMD.
Yeah there’s no way the mainstream media would be fed some BS and push it out. Never seen that before.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:07 am to Powerman
quote:Political mumbo jumbo. We're dealing with terrorists who want to destroy your sympathetic attitude
we negotiated in bad faith
quote:Like what? Why are we obligated to give terrorists reasonable terms?
tried to get them to agree to unreasonable terms
You keep treating this conflict like it's a western liberal political negotiation
Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:07 am to RollTide4547
quote:
Those that can't be reasoned with, must be fought. That's just how the world works.
This is what the Tuckers and Dave Smith's of the world totally fail to realize.
"No war" is only possible when both sides are rational actors with the same values & morals. "No war" goes out the window when one side welcomes death.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:07 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:I've already addressed this
In 1988, the USA facilitated Iraqs chemical weapons attacks on Iranians.
Geez, I wonder why they hate us?
Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:08 am to Roaad
quote:Irrelevant
But we have been told they are 5 years away for 40 years
Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:08 am to ronricks
quote:One must first define "fight". If you are referring to a massive naval invasion, I agree. If you're referring to a small group (or several) coming here and performing terrorist acts, then I completely disagree.
Iranians aren't coming over here to fight.
Those that cannot be reasoned with must be fought. That's just how the world works.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:09 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:False dichtomy
Youre literally pushing us to being the worlds police force
quote:"Fear" as in reality
Fear has turned your mind to mush
People won't deal with the OP. They keep talking around it
Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:09 am to somethingdifferent
quote:Indeed.
The level of naivety regarding the Iranian conflict is disturbing
An adversary is on their knees... almost.... and people are sad about it.
It's not over, there may be things to be sad about in the future. Maybe not. But considering not one serviceman has died in this conflict AND an adversary is in deep doo doo is no reason to be sad.
The one thing I am worried about is the Iranian backed gottaway illegals (otherwise known as terrorists and if anyone tries to call them undocumented terrorists I'm setting shite on fire). Firstly, they came in illegally AND with gotaways, we have no data to even track them on and identify them.
Secondly, are they organized.
Thirdly, Trump has already been denied the use of the Alien Enemy Act, if Patel does identify them and wants them picked up using their illegal entry as a basis, he can't because of that ruling.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:10 am to Bunk Moreland
They are the head of the savages. Iranians might live in nicer homes than the savages of Afghanistan or Syria, but they are still savages
They wont be savage no'mo when they are introduced to MOAB
They wont be savage no'mo when they are introduced to MOAB
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