re: The Internet caught the Brown Shooter, The Providence/Brown Police Couldn’t/Wouldn’t

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He'd be better protected by being exonerated.

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Truth. Tell everybody that he’s not a suspect and any danger to him goes away.

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Again, we are discussing the actions of Brown University (removing his profiles, etc), NOT those of law enforcement. It is not remotely Brown's "place" to be declaring whether the guy is a suspect ... or not.

If he had been conclusively cleared, I am sure law enforcement would have told us that by now (see Benjamin Warner Erickson). But I am not bouncing off the walls because they have not yet completed their investigation of this guy.

Take a deep breath. Relax. Take the ADHD meds, if necessary. Police investigations often do not move at the speed of the 24-hour news cycle.

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It is still early, and it was a traumatic event. More info will surface in the coming weeks.

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You don't find it odd how slow this is playing out?

The shooting was 4 days ago? By now, we should have learned more than "we don't know" from the police, Brown University, Mayor, someone. Every single time, the media slow plays this, it's always because the perp is trans/muslim/queer/black/insertleftistprotectedspecies. Every time.

So when it happens, again. And the VP of Brown's college Republicans appears to be targeted with multiple shots fired specifically at her (and some have reported her face), don't you think there is more to it than what the media/police/brown is feeding us?

The sheer amount of cameras in that area alone should have produced more than the 2 videos we've seen. Even by trans shooter standards, we are given more video on movements inside the building.

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Do I think that the entire Internet is being purged to protect this one guy? No. That is tinfoil hat nonsense.

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Dunno about the ENTIRE Internet and "purged," but certainly YouTube is being curated such that it's difficulty to find witnesses reports that I KNOW were there before.

As to why, I don't know. As far as protecting one guy, I think some genuinely don't want an innocent person doxxed. That genuine concern probably bleeds into "don't condemn Muslims generally" if "Allahu Akbar" were shouted.

It seems so obvious, though, that anyone who might match the videos should be questioned. It seems suspicious that the Attorney General didn't just say, "Certainly the video doesn't prove anyone's guilt. As to the person mentioned on X, we interviewed him and dismissed him as a suspect because of his iron clad alibi..."

Also, the longer Brown goes without commenting on the removal of Mustapha Karbouch material, the worse it gets. Brown COULD have issued this statement: "Brown and law enforcement agencies have no doubt that the person widely (and irresponsibly) linked with this tragedy is completely innocent. He is understandably shocked and shaken by being falsely accused of such a despicable act of violence against his fellow students. We hope he remains a valued member of the Brown community. Please respect his innocence and privacy. We removed personal material related to him on our website to protect him."

Instead, we get "frick you, we're going to pretend we don't know anything about what happens on our websites. You are a bigot for asking about it."

That doesn’t exude "Above all else, we want to catch this murderer and keep our community safe."

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Also, the longer Brown goes without commenting on the removal of Mustapha Karbouch material, the worse it gets. Brown COULD have issued this statement: "Brown and law enforcement agencies have no doubt that the person widely (and irresponsibly) linked with this tragedy is completely innocent. He is understandably shocked and shaken by being falsely accused of such a despicable act of violence against his fellow students. We hope he remains a valued member of the Brown community. Please respect his innocence and privacy. We removed personal material related to him on our website to protect him."

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I would be very surprised if the police have NOT asked Brown NOT to issue such a statement, until their investigation is complete.

Remember, they have egg all over their faces from the Benjamin Warner Erickson debacle.

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if they all went around killing we would have a very different world.


Do you think that the overall acceptance of violence with Islam is irrelevant?

What percentage of Muslims would be ok with the execution of apostate Muslims?

What percentage of Muslims would be ok with the execution of Jewish children indiscriminately?

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You're making a lot of assumptions here, not sure based on what facts.

And are you really bringing up execution of Jewish children after what we've seen in Gaza the last few years?

Unfortunately, I think there are elements in both the Muslim world and in Israel who are ok with the death of children to meet their objective, but in reality Israel has killed way more kids (roughly 20,000) in the last few years.

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Why has the FBI not taken over the case.

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It is not remotely Brown's "place" to be declaring whether the guy is a suspect ... or not.

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I’m not suggesting it’s the university’s place to do that.

I’m suggesting that the university cleaning all traces of the guy from their web footprint, followed by the cops not immediately taking him out of danger by saying he’s not a suspect, means something.

If I’m the cop in front of the cameras and I see a wave of anger building towards Mustapha, and I know the guy is clean, I’m saying so instantly.

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You think they haven't cleared Karbouch yet?

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Correct.

If they (the LEOs) HAD conclusively cleared him by now, I think that they would have said so ... for exactly the reasons others have stated.

I just do not equate "no yet cleared" with "conclusively guilty," as many here seem to do.

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They also have clearly withheld information... or am I mistaken

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They certainly have not taken the time to refute all the noise circulating on the Internet, but that would be a full-time job.

They may well have developed some information that has not yet been made public. Almost certainly, in fact. But I do not see them as having any obligation to release any partial information until it is fully developed.