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RelentlessAnalysis

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So we now know where dogs came from
Pretty cool video.
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Just drop them off and don't pay.
How to make friends …
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Indicted FL Congresswoman Photoshops $109k Ring from Christmas Message. Ratio Ensues.
OK. This is funny.
Rather than sky-screaming, could we just ask and answer one question?

What statute gives RFK authority to unilaterally ban any product or additive?

It seems to me that this is the first step in analyzing this situation.
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You can’t hold anyone with a gun and kick them after a traffic accident if they are trying to flee. I’m pretty sure that law is universal in the United States of America.
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Leaving the scene of an accident is a crime. We actually can detain someone suspected of committing a crime. It appears the law in NC even allows for that.

He (allegedly) pulled a gun on the PASSENGERS.

What crime do you contend that the PASSENGERS committed? It was the driver who fled the scene.
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The owner of the store he was leaving
He was leaving a bar, not a store.
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We actually can detain someone suspected of committing a crime. It appears the law in NC even allows for that.
Some crimes, yes, under some circumstances.
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§15A-404. Detention of offenders by private persons.

(b) When Detention Permitted. - A private person may detain another person when he has probable cause to believe that the person detained has committed in his presence:

(1) A felony,
(2) A breach of the peace,
(3) A crime involving physical injury to another person, or
(4) A crime involving theft or destruction of property.

(c) Manner of Detention. - The detention must be in a reasonable manner considering the offense involved and the circumstances of the detention.
Let's assume (for purposes of discussion) that this statute DOES allow Zebulon Man to "detain" the two hombres in question. The question REMAINS whether he is entitled to utilize deadly force (a handgun) to effect that detention.

The kidnapping charges would tend to support an argument of "no."

It might be instructive to examine when an LEO is entitled to use deadly force to arrest/detain a person. Secion15A-401(d)(2) addresses that question:
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A law-enforcement officer is justified in using deadly physical force upon another person (to detain/arrest a person) only when it is or appears to be reasonably necessary thereby:

a. To defend himself or a third person from what he reasonably believes to be the use or imminent use of deadly physical force;
b. To effect an arrest or to prevent the escape from custody of a person who he reasonably believes is attempting to escape by means of a deadly weapon, or who by his conduct or any other means indicates that he presents an imminent threat of death or serious physical injury to others unless apprehended without delay; or
c. To prevent the escape of a person from custody imposed upon him as a result of conviction for a felony.
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weighing the credibility of witnesses is a jury question.
Looks to me as if the police already “weighted the credibility of the witnesses” by ignoring the statement given by a non biased witness.


They did not "ignore" your witness. They were faced with conflicting witness statements. This isn't Judge Dredd. Rather than "picking a side," they did their job and handed the "credibility" issue to the court system.

As an aside, is anyone here so naive as to believe that LEOs did not find a handgun on the person of the defendant, when the LEOs arrived on the scene? Any chance that might have been a factor in their actions?
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So happy that the Nigers are helping out the US with destroying the ISIS terrorists I always wondered where that word originated.
The Niger is one of the largest river systems in Africa. Nigeria is named for the river.
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"ethnic intimidation," At the risk of sounding like sfp, can someone define this for me? Maybe you, ra? You seem to be very knowledgeable about this topic.
Since it is a criminal charge, it is undoubtedly defined in North Carolina statutes.

If I were you, I would start there.

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NCGS §14-401.14. I did not read it to confirm
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It does not make them any less “witnesses.“
It does make them a hell of a lot more biased and unreliable than the bystanders who have nothing to lose or gain by the outcome.
Undoubtedly.

Again, weighing the credibility of witnesses is a jury question.
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And someone ELSE clearly said he did so And for all you know, that someone ELSE was the two guys who crashed into him and tried to run.
I would go so far as to say that is the most likely scenario.

It does not make them any less “witnesses.“
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It's not somebody stealing some copper wiring or a bicycle. It's a 'property crime' that could kill you or leave you with major injury.
fascinating.

I cited you to the North Carolina statute. Please outline how the use of deadly force was justified within the terms of that statute. TIA
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Did you read where the witness said they never saw him pull a gun or kick them??
Yep

And someone ELSE clearly said he did so, or there would be no charges. Resolving that conflict is why we have juries.
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RA loves the illegals
Immigration status has no bearing upon my post.

HTH
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Time for Trump to squeeze this town and state until they release this man.
It was 17 days ago. Safe to assume that he was released on bond some time ago.
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In liberal America, you’re supposed to let the illegals ram you, drunkenly, and let them go on the merry way because your white guilt cause the accident in the first place.
No, in MOST of America, you are not supposed to threaten deadly force (handgun) in response to a property crime, because we live in a civilized society and not the damned Wild West.
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Austin Herber, the driver of the white truck that was hit, is facing several charges including assault, kidnapping, ethnic intimidation, and the intention to terrorize others with a gun. LINK


In NC, limitations on the use of deadly force include not being the initial aggressor and not using deadly force to protect property. See North Carolina General Statutes §14-51.3 and §14-51.2

FTR, I agree that the “hate crime” enhancement is complete BS.
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what has Trump done that is unconstitutional as it relates to this ruling?
As outlined in detail in the linked judicial Opinion, he violated the First Amendment by retaliating against Zain for protected speech. If you want the details, feel free to read the Opinion.
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Remember when you wanted to chop off little boy’s peckers and little girl’s breasts?
I have never taken that position. You are a very confused person.
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in your view, the leader of the Executive branch shouldn’t be able to administer the Executive Branch…correct?
No, but you are seldom correct about anything, because you have a simplistic outlook upon pretty much everything.

The President certainly has the right to administer the Executive Branch … subject to the limitations of the Constitution. It is the role of the Judicial Branch to enforce those limitations.
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Potter was a predatory slumlord
I thought Trumpists loved slumlords?