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re: The GOP Coalition Moving Forward

Posted on 8/4/26 at 12:06 pm to
Posted by RemyLeBeau
Member since Mar 2015
2097 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 12:06 pm to
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It's the limpwrist, emotionally unstable TDS conservatives driving the infighting. They need to accept that they are the minority and realize that their actions only harm the right.

All of their whining strengthens the democrats and pushes away independents.



I'll counter with the Iran war was Trump's biggest blunder. Folks were already skeptical due to not releasing the Epstein Files, wary of Tariffs, etc. But to jump into another ME war and subsequently drive consumer prices higher has been a disaster and has caused a crack to become a chasm.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
24620 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 12:07 pm to
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I’m open to all solutions, including ending it. That would be an even more difficult to achieve policy end, but I am there with you. I think the Manhattan Institute has done a lot of good work and pointing out there probably multiple ways that might be more easily achievable to correct our financial course.

It will be used by Democrats claiming republicans want to take SS away. When the time comes, the next generation of politicians by necessity, will figure it out.
Posted by RemyLeBeau
Member since Mar 2015
2097 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 12:08 pm to
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I think people including MAGA now trust Trump far less than they did before.


As opposed to America hating Dems?


Why do people constantly employ dialectical thinking?
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
20451 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 12:11 pm to
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The Gen Z+millennial vs Boomer divide is real.

The Boomers are the most selfish generation in recent history. Can't overcome the divide until they correct behaviors.
Posted by E Redcoat
Member since Jan 2026
108 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 12:21 pm to
Never expect people to go against their self interest. The only plausible counterweight to boomers (who actually vote) is younger people voting.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
24620 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 12:23 pm to
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The only plausible counterweight to boomers (who actually vote) is younger people voting.

How about younger people put their platforms out there and run? And by the way, young people are the energy in the democrat party now. And they are running.
Posted by E Redcoat
Member since Jan 2026
108 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 12:36 pm to
I guess. But there’s a lot of accumulated evidence that they simply don’t vote. Old people go to the city council meetings and they go to the polls. Def might help if there weren’t only 80 year olds running the party for sure.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
24620 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 12:40 pm to
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I guess. But there’s a lot of accumulated evidence that they simply don’t vote. Old people go to the city council meetings and they go to the polls. Def might help if there weren’t only 80 year olds running the party for sure.


I'm closer to 80 than 40. It's time to step up young people. Quit bitching, and do something.

By the way, what does a young non-democrat want in the way of a platform?

Means test SS?
Higher taxes on the rich?
Taxing unrealized capital gains?
Reducing the size of government?
Cutting the military?
Restrictions on freedom of speech?

What in the hell do you want?
Posted by LittleJerrySeinfield
350,000 Post Karma
Member since Aug 2013
11434 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 12:40 pm to
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The bigger divide is GOPe vs AF/MAGA.


There is no longer a difference between MAGA and the GOPe.
Posted by E Redcoat
Member since Jan 2026
108 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 12:48 pm to
I’m not sure why you’re addressing this question to me as I am not a democrat. I am also middle-aged and high income/high net worth so I doubt I even speak for the demographic that has the most to gain from a more sane fiscal policy. But what we were talking about here is the kind of fiscal policy described in the Manhattan Institute paper i linked to above, which would dramatically cut spending as a priority above raising taxes
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
11771 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 12:51 pm to
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I think people including MAGA now trust Trump far less than they did before.

We need new blood badly and someone who can get real shite done and not cheerlead for themself instead.


Wrong...
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Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
24620 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 1:06 pm to
I could afford it under that plan. I hope you can afford it when you get there.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
24620 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 1:07 pm to
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I’m not sure why you’re addressing this question to me as I am not a democrat.

Because young republicans are restive and may have more in common with young democrats than they'd admit.
Posted by E Redcoat
Member since Jan 2026
108 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 1:09 pm to
Im planning to have nothing from the government. Or for inflation to make it a meaningless contribution. Doesn’t mean I don’t worry about the people who will really need it. Or maybe Elon is right and the robots will be wiping our asses, making money unnecessary
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
24620 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 1:13 pm to
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Im planning to have nothing from the government.

Look, I may be wrong but you will sign up for Medicate at 65 and they will take money from your SS checks. Maybe you can opt out and find providers and hospitals that share your philosophy. I had wonderful company sponsored heath care insurance until I had to go on Medicare. Medicare isn't that bad at all.
Posted by E Redcoat
Member since Jan 2026
108 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 1:19 pm to
Oh yeah didn’t mean to imply I wouldn’t sign up. I will. If it’s still going like this, my opting out won’t change anything. Still, structurally, it’s a system that misallocates scarce resources and I wish I had a party or candidate to vote for that took it seriously.
Posted by Tiger in Texas
Houston, Texas
Member since Sep 2004
22258 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 1:23 pm to
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These other people Trump has appointed (Hegseth and others) or wanted to appoint, while loyal as hell, seem very incompetent


Incompetent?? After what Obama and Biden put up?
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
11771 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 4:51 pm to
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You think MTG wanted to destroy America? What do you base that on?


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She's an Epstein co-conspirator.

At 18 years old Haley Robson was paid to recruit young girls, ages 14-16, for Epstein.

She referred to herself as a “Heidi Fleiss” and instructed the girls to tell Epstein they were 18.

You used to her to manipulate the American people and peddle the Epstein Hoax.

You refer to her as a “victim” ??

You're a vile & vicious person.

And your grift is being exposed
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
23039 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 5:00 pm to
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The Boomers are the most selfish generation in recent history. Can't overcome the divide until they correct behaviors.

It would be good if you, and young people that think like you do, understood how pathetic you come across. What have boomers done that make them uniquely "selfish" and why do you think anybody, a person or generation, owe you something?

It's frustrating to see how effective the Left has been in convincing even young conservatives that they are economic victims.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
24627 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 5:59 pm to
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There is no longer a difference between MAGA and the GOPe.

I get where you’re coming from as far as the policy shift to the center, but there’s a large block of people who will vote for any candidate Trump endorses regardless of whether they align with the 2024 platform or not so I definitely still consider that a separate thing.
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