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re: The goal post has shifted. No longer a jury of your peers. Now it's a jury of your race
Posted on 6/13/26 at 1:09 pm to Easy
Posted on 6/13/26 at 1:09 pm to Easy
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Jurors were aware of this case and had already started forming opinions pre-trial. They each come in with their own life experiences and biases. And juries don't deal with "facts", they deal with evidence because not all facts are evidence and vice versa.
Be honest with yourself and with us.
Why do you think having more black people on the jury would have changed the outcome or made it “fair”.
Be specific. Don’t crab away from what you mean to say.
Say it.
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Posted on 6/13/26 at 1:10 pm to stout
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The prosecutor’s reported proffered reasons for striking all black jurors —that they were teachers—appears to be pretext.
If you see it on the internet it must be real... I remember seeing that the reason given for black jurors being struck during voir dire was that the blacks responded to the questions that they were too knowledgable of the case pretrial publicity and media stories...
When I saw this it seemed if the tone of it was that they wanted off the jury.
Posted on 6/13/26 at 1:15 pm to beerJeep
I don't know if the outcome would have changed. I only said that not having black jurors likely put him at a disadvantage.
Posted on 6/13/26 at 1:16 pm to Easy
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I only said that not having black jurors likely put him at a disadvantage.
Explain.
Why.
Be.
Specific.
Stop being a fricking pussy and say what you mean to say.
Posted on 6/13/26 at 1:23 pm to Easy
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only know about this case and trial from here, but my take is that it has been racially charged with opinions split along racial lines for white and black. Given that, not having black jurors likely did put him at a disadvantage.
Wrong.
Not gaining an advantage =/= a disadvantage
In other words, it put him square on fair.
Posted on 6/13/26 at 1:24 pm to Figgy
No
Posted on 6/13/26 at 1:27 pm to Easy
quote:
Jurors were aware of this case and had already started forming opinions pre-trial. They each come in with their own life experiences and biases. And juries don't deal with "facts", they deal with evidence because not all facts are evidence and vice versa.
Opinions based on nonsense should be excluded as they are way too far from impartial.
Posted on 6/13/26 at 1:29 pm to stout
Go live in a black country if you want everything to be screwed up for you.
Posted on 6/13/26 at 1:32 pm to djsdawg
Of course. And when you're a juror you agree to set all that aside and decide based on the evidence. But it doesn't always or maybe hardly ever go like that. Jurors of all races, ages, sex, etc bring those biases into their thought process. None of us can help it.
Posted on 6/13/26 at 1:33 pm to Easy
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Jurors were aware of this case and had already started forming opinions pre-trial. They each come in with their own life experiences and biases. And juries don't deal with "facts", they deal with evidence because not all facts are evidence and vice versa.
You are quickly becoming one of my favorite posters for the left here.
Why?
Because you try to sound so intelligent every time you make a completely irrational point. I can tell you use copilot to write the majority if your replies too. It is hilarious.
Fortunately, I speak progressive, and understand every line of bullshite you spew.
Posted on 6/13/26 at 1:41 pm to SludgeFactory
Cool that I'm one of your favorites but I just took that pew quiz and it said that I'm conservative, so how far right is this place that I'm seen as "the left". 
And no I don't use AI to generate replies. Anything smart or dumb that I say is on me.
And no I don't use AI to generate replies. Anything smart or dumb that I say is on me.
Posted on 6/13/26 at 1:45 pm to stout
The bad apart about the Legal system is it's infected with mind numb Democrats.
It's no secret they are the ones who portray The Constitution as a living breathing evolving document. It's not. It says exactly what it says and means exactly and only that.
Both sides work to choose the jury. BOTH. He received a jury of his peers.
It's no secret they are the ones who portray The Constitution as a living breathing evolving document. It's not. It says exactly what it says and means exactly and only that.
Both sides work to choose the jury. BOTH. He received a jury of his peers.
Posted on 6/13/26 at 1:49 pm to Easy
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Of course. And when you're a juror you agree to set all that aside and decide based on the evidence. But it doesn't always or maybe hardly ever go like that. Jurors of all races, ages, sex, etc bring those biases into their thought process. None of us can help it.
Of course to what? Learn to quote when responding.
You know what can be done to make it go as close as it is intended to go?
Removing the most biased people from the pool.
This post was edited on 6/13/26 at 2:01 pm
Posted on 6/13/26 at 1:58 pm to Easy
So you refuse to be honest with the class?
Posted on 6/13/26 at 2:01 pm to stout
Trump did not have a jury of his peers in NYC.
Posted on 6/13/26 at 2:02 pm to GetmorewithLes
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remember seeing that the reason given for black jurors being struck during voir dire was that the blacks responded to the questions that they were too knowledgable of the case pretrial publicity and media stories...
There are two types of ways for a jury to get stricken by a prosecutor
The first is for cause meaning the juris somehow prejudice
The second is for a preemptory challenge and I do not know how many the prosecutor has but I think in almost every state it has to be a race neutral reason and I will say that school teachers are not good on juries
Posted on 6/13/26 at 2:24 pm to djsdawg
You only wrote one sentence and I agreed with you. Are you that mentally challenged that you can't follow the conversation and need your words read back to you?
Posted on 6/13/26 at 2:25 pm to Easy
Ready to be honest?
Posted on 6/13/26 at 2:27 pm to beerJeep
I've responded to you several times but you're either not understanding or maybe you're wanting me to say something else. I don't know what that is so I feel like it's time to move on.
Posted on 6/13/26 at 2:30 pm to stout
Guess he should’ve murdered someone in New Orleans, Jackson, Detroit, etc.
This post was edited on 6/13/26 at 2:31 pm
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