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re: The Gipper was a free trader, no matter what the current President says.
Posted on 10/27/25 at 5:22 pm to CollegeFBRules
Posted on 10/27/25 at 5:22 pm to CollegeFBRules
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The Gipper was a free trader, no matter what the current President says.
As per usual, youre full of shite
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We had clear evidence that Japanese companies were engaging in unfair trade practices that violated an agreement between Japan and the United States. We expect our trading partners to live up to their agreements. As I've often said: Our commitment to free trade is also a commitment to fair trade.
Word for word what Trump believes, and is enacting. Fair trade, above all else
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Posted on 10/27/25 at 6:45 pm to CollegeFBRules
Reagan was a LONG time ago, FB, and we had zero threat of a Chinese choke hold re our essential manufactured goods. Now if they cut off our antibiotics we'd be in trouble.
Trump did not like it back then and has never changed on that. He always thought the Chinese version of 'Free' Trade was rigged in their favor. Same with a lot of Countries who formerly enjoyed taking a cut of our productive largesse.
Do those other Countries believe in Free Trade? I.e., no tariffs?
We may and likely will end up paying more for manufacturing our own goods, for various reasons. And it will take time and ingenuity to get things going. And that is discounting the fact that many of our citizens will NOT work unless forced to. That is a bigger problem than muh free trade.
Trump did not like it back then and has never changed on that. He always thought the Chinese version of 'Free' Trade was rigged in their favor. Same with a lot of Countries who formerly enjoyed taking a cut of our productive largesse.
Do those other Countries believe in Free Trade? I.e., no tariffs?
We may and likely will end up paying more for manufacturing our own goods, for various reasons. And it will take time and ingenuity to get things going. And that is discounting the fact that many of our citizens will NOT work unless forced to. That is a bigger problem than muh free trade.
Posted on 10/27/25 at 6:48 pm to CollegeFBRules
Free trade means the USA doesn’t pay tariffs to everyone else and nothing back to the US. Reciprocal trade is free trade.
Posted on 10/27/25 at 7:54 pm to Gifman
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The Gipper also gave amnesty to 3 million in California. How'd that work out?
He also kicked off Cali's gun control path.
Posted on 10/27/25 at 8:20 pm to CollegeFBRules
He also placed 100% tariffs.
He also stated free trade where there is free trade OR fair trade. Key word fair
It ok if Japan has a tariff. But if we trade, then we get to do the same.
When players are simply trying to control the world, they do not want fair. They want an unfair advantage.
He also stated free trade where there is free trade OR fair trade. Key word fair
It ok if Japan has a tariff. But if we trade, then we get to do the same.
When players are simply trying to control the world, they do not want fair. They want an unfair advantage.
Posted on 10/27/25 at 8:31 pm to idlewatcher
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Quit reading right here. Notice who was begging for attention after said "tantrum"? It wasn't Trump.
'We achieved our goal': Canada's Ford stands firm on Reagan anti-tariff ad
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Ontario Premier Doug Ford has stood firm behind his decision to run an anti-tariff advertisement in the US that featured Ronald Reagan and angered Donald Trump, saying "we have achieved our goal".
His "goal" was to piss off Trump. That doesn't seem to be a winning strategy in my book, Doug.
Posted on 10/27/25 at 8:39 pm to CollegeFBRules
Reagan was great, and so is TRUMP.....leave it at that!
Posted on 10/27/25 at 9:11 pm to CollegeFBRules
Man these talking points were promulgated rapidly this week. And it’s only Monday.
Posted on 10/27/25 at 9:13 pm to RobbBobb
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As per usual, youre full of shite
Not my headline, genius, but you’ve always been slow.
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Word for word what Trump believes, and is enacting. Fair trade, above all else
So then you admit Trump doesn’t actually believe in free trade, because within a year, Reagan knew those tariffs were a mistake.
Posted on 10/27/25 at 9:13 pm to CollegeFBRules
He was also a democrat....until he wasn't.
Stupid argument.
1980s was about USSR
Currently it is about communist China.
Stupid argument.
1980s was about USSR
Currently it is about communist China.
Posted on 10/27/25 at 9:21 pm to CollegeFBRules
Free trade was merely a tool to fight the Cold War and keep our Bretton Woods partners in our sphere of influence rather than the Soviets'. With the Cold War being over and Western and Asian demographics cratering, we need to get as much of our manufacturing back into the U.S. or at least in our hemisphere as possible.
Posted on 10/27/25 at 9:28 pm to CollegeFBRules
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because within a year, Reagan knew those tariffs were a mistake.
Or Reagan was mistaken, within the year
Or maybe you just glazed over the tariffs the US was paying when Trump took over. Thats exactly what happened after Reagan realized "his mistake". They sat back and laughed, and then went full tilt for the next 40 years on the US
Posted on 10/27/25 at 9:32 pm to RobbBobb
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They sat back and laughed, and then went full tilt for the next 40 years on the US
The poverty you were living in before Trump’s tariffs notwithstanding, let’s get back at those other countries by taxing American citizens. That’ll fix it!
Posted on 10/27/25 at 9:34 pm to CollegeFBRules
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The Gipper was a free trader
That's a bit misleading. He was for "free trade" as long as it FAIR trade. Meaning of course tariffs could be used as a way to level the playing field.
Posted on 10/27/25 at 9:44 pm to CollegeFBRules
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let’s get back at those other countries by taxing American citizens.
Where is our manufacturing base? Thats right, we dodnt have one
Massive numbers of companies left, and their former employees are just above the poverty line because they cant even afford the products we werent tariffing
If Reagan was correct about his mistake, why did Trump have to undo NAFTA, that he created?
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A 2014 study on the effects of NAFTA on US trade jobs and investment found that between 1993 and 2013, the US trade deficit with Mexico and Canada increased from $17.0 to $177.2 billion, displacing 851,700 US jobs.
Posted on 10/27/25 at 11:16 pm to RobbBobb
I realize this thread is about Reagan but I’ll make a parochial comment about what Clinton did with NAFTA and how if affected the south. It eradicated small town jobs all over the south in the name of free trade. Not only in the manufacturing sector but all the support businesses that catered to these folks making a small but honest living. frick that guy
Posted on 10/28/25 at 1:19 am to CollegeFBRules
Frick RR
He signed the Big Pharma Vaccine and drug hold harmless where the USA taxpayers are on the hook for Big Pharma
This is wayyyy over your head, but do your research. I don’t respond to morons that aren’t well educated on true history
Don’t lecture us
But you do you & no hard feelings but you know not what you speak
He signed the Big Pharma Vaccine and drug hold harmless where the USA taxpayers are on the hook for Big Pharma
This is wayyyy over your head, but do your research. I don’t respond to morons that aren’t well educated on true history
Don’t lecture us
But you do you & no hard feelings but you know not what you speak
Posted on 10/28/25 at 2:29 am to CollegeFBRules
You posted numerous quotes that are not your own, including the title post. The only thought on the subject that are your own is the whiner post at the end accusing Trump of being a Toddler.
I think you need to deeper dive on the Reagan era than just some editorial board pontificating on a topic that they did not do much research.
Reagan was a free trader, as is Trump, but don't think Reagan was not a protectionist, because he was.
The Reagan era was different economically than today. Most domestic automobiles were built in the USA or Canada, as was a majority of the textile materials and manufacturing, steel production, tool production, building materials, etc.
China was not on the map economically during the 1980's The countries of origin of the clothes that you wear today were not the producers of those garments then, most were made in the USA.. Mexico's economy was in the trash during the 1980's.
Reagan disparaging tariffs does not mean he did not use them along with other tools. Many people do not like punishing their children speak of having to do so in a humble manner, but is a necessary tool that is used to modify their kids behavior.
Look up VIEs, VERs, quotas, subsidies, and tariffs during the Reagan era. The U.S, had trade disputes with Canada, European Economic Community (EEC), and Japan.
I think you need to deeper dive on the Reagan era than just some editorial board pontificating on a topic that they did not do much research.
Reagan was a free trader, as is Trump, but don't think Reagan was not a protectionist, because he was.
The Reagan era was different economically than today. Most domestic automobiles were built in the USA or Canada, as was a majority of the textile materials and manufacturing, steel production, tool production, building materials, etc.
China was not on the map economically during the 1980's The countries of origin of the clothes that you wear today were not the producers of those garments then, most were made in the USA.. Mexico's economy was in the trash during the 1980's.
Reagan disparaging tariffs does not mean he did not use them along with other tools. Many people do not like punishing their children speak of having to do so in a humble manner, but is a necessary tool that is used to modify their kids behavior.
Look up VIEs, VERs, quotas, subsidies, and tariffs during the Reagan era. The U.S, had trade disputes with Canada, European Economic Community (EEC), and Japan.
Posted on 10/28/25 at 7:06 am to CollegeFBRules
It’s not free trade if we are the only ones paying. It’s only free if it’s even. How do you not understand this?
Posted on 10/28/25 at 7:33 am to bbvdd
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The ad the Canada ran took Reagan out of context (shocking, I know).
Reagan said that he prefers free trade but when another country places barriers, they need to be met with consequences.
This speech was in reference to Japan whom Reagan placed tariffs on.
Shhhhhhh, they depend on people like OP not actually being educated, just merely "educated"
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