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re: Text of the Iran Deal/MOU per Bloomberg
Posted on 6/17/26 at 6:47 am to RelicBatches86
Posted on 6/17/26 at 6:47 am to RelicBatches86
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Were nukes the only concern?
I was told the bombings started in Feb werent a new war because Iran and their groups have been targeting and killing Americans and our allies for 40 years.
Whats preventing their unfrozen assets from filing the pocket books to fund more terrorist attacks?
and werent we supposed to help out the Iranian protestors? Does this agreement do anything about Iran executing protestors?
No, you weren't told any of this. Trump has been very clear from the start that Iran never having a nuclear weapon is the red line.
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Posted on 6/17/26 at 6:48 am to Lsut81
quote:I am going to remain cautiously optimistic that there is either more or less to all of this and that there are some yet to be revealed huge positives to come. But yeah, even those like me who wanted hyper-diplomacy as opposed to war are in WTF mode. I will not believe this until it comes from the President’s lips.
Trump better get out and start selling this apparent shite sandwich bc he’s gonna lose his rational supporters pretty quickly if it is what has leaked.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 6:50 am to imjustafatkid
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No, you weren't told any of this. Trump has been very clear from the start that Iran never having a nuclear weapon is the red line.
This MOU kicks the can and permits indefinite extensions on the nuclear issue.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 6:52 am to Pragmatist2025
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But yeah, even those like me who wanted hyper-diplomacy as opposed to war are in WTF mode.
There was 1 among us that recognized that, even though strategic blunders have been committed by Trump every step of the way, we had to commit to US ground groups to save face.
I was shite on for months and my vindication is being shite on by Iran and Trump.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 6:56 am to joshnorris14
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Text of the Iran Deal/MOU per Bloomberg
Are we sure Vance wasn't negotiating on behalf of the Iranians?
Posted on 6/17/26 at 6:57 am to joshnorris14
To "win" we had to do that
But we still probably wouldn't win
Which is why this pivot by the fanboys is so funny. They supported the neocon starting of the war and midstream, once it became clear we can't win, pivoted to pretending they were anti-neocon and talking shite to the people who still supported the conflict. The dishonesty and cognitive dissonance has been INCREDIBLE to watch.
The weird part is that the usually Trump admin strategy of never declaring a goal and flooding the zone with many potential goals, so they can claim victory however the end unfolds, doesn't seem to work with this deal. This deal doesn't seem to achieve any of the goals the admin flooded the zone with.
But we still probably wouldn't win
Which is why this pivot by the fanboys is so funny. They supported the neocon starting of the war and midstream, once it became clear we can't win, pivoted to pretending they were anti-neocon and talking shite to the people who still supported the conflict. The dishonesty and cognitive dissonance has been INCREDIBLE to watch.
The weird part is that the usually Trump admin strategy of never declaring a goal and flooding the zone with many potential goals, so they can claim victory however the end unfolds, doesn't seem to work with this deal. This deal doesn't seem to achieve any of the goals the admin flooded the zone with.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 6:59 am to joshnorris14
1 None of this matters because the deal will probably fall through because Israel will keep fighting Hezbollah
2 Iran will never stop trying to get a Nuke as long as IRGC and IK are there.
2 Iran will never stop trying to get a Nuke as long as IRGC and IK are there.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 7:02 am to Robcrzy
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1 None of this matters because the deal will probably fall through because Israel will keep fighting Hezbollah
2 Iran will never stop trying to get a Nuke as long as IRGC and IK are there.
So the last 4 months were all for not? Let me show you my shocked face
Posted on 6/17/26 at 7:05 am to Lsut81
The open end nature of this deal seems like permission for Iran to delay repeatedly while they rebuild and plot revenge.
Revenge is mandatory for these Stone Age mindset goat humpers.
And how the hell are they not radical?
What in the actual frick?
Revenge is mandatory for these Stone Age mindset goat humpers.
And how the hell are they not radical?
What in the actual frick?
This post was edited on 6/17/26 at 7:17 am
Posted on 6/17/26 at 7:05 am to Robcrzy
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Israel will keep fighting Hezbollah
And as you say that, Trey Yingst reporting that Israel is bombing Hezbollah in Lebanon.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 7:08 am to Lsut81
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And as you say that, Trey Yingst reporting that Israel is bombing Hezbollah in Lebanon.
This shite will never end
Posted on 6/17/26 at 7:11 am to RemyLeBeau
Patience, Patriot. You’ll like how this movie ends.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 7:11 am to SlowFlowPro
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Obama only gave Iran $1.7B for comparison purposes.
And Trump is not giving them a dime.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 7:12 am to ABearsFanNMS
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And Trump is not giving them a dime.
Technically, Obama didn't either.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 7:14 am to ReauxlTide222
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Why would we give them a penny?
Polling numbers if I had to guess. The primary goal appears to be getting away from the tar baby and the details don't matter that much. They're banking on the $300 billion being less distasteful than staying bogged down.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 7:18 am to therick711
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The 300 billion is from Gulf countries willing to invest when sanctions are removed. Read the reportage.
Bingo
Posted on 6/17/26 at 7:21 am to hogcard1964
We're facilitating $300B in investment in a radical Islamic regime controlled by the same regime that's controlled Iran since 1979
This may be in addition to unfreezing $100B in Iranian assets, which is an exact comparison to the $1.7B "pallets of cash" but 58x larger
This may be in addition to unfreezing $100B in Iranian assets, which is an exact comparison to the $1.7B "pallets of cash" but 58x larger
Posted on 6/17/26 at 7:22 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 6/17/26 at 7:23 am to SlowFlowPro
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controlled by the same regime
Posted on 6/17/26 at 7:24 am to SlowFlowPro
It is clear we have to do our part immediately and they can dick around for 60 days or more. They have pre-war sanctions lifted and assets unfrozen so they come out better on that end.
Who bombed whom? Who is surrendering?
Who bombed whom? Who is surrendering?
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