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re: Text of the Iran Deal/MOU per Bloomberg
Posted on 6/17/26 at 1:09 am to joshnorris14
Posted on 6/17/26 at 1:09 am to joshnorris14
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The United States also undertakes to withdraw its forces from the surrounding areas within 30 days after the final agreement.
So we are abandoning our bases? If true
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Posted on 6/17/26 at 1:13 am to joshnorris14
I get there is another part of this to be ironed out but the front part favors Iran heavily with no guarantee we will get much more. This is a horrid deal on first display if this is indeed it. If this remains the deal I am highly disappointed and feel my support of Trump and this campaign is wasted.
All leverage will have been completely wiped away. This sadly is a big giant failure should what is in the OP stands and nothing major comes from the next 60 days.
Again if all true Trump has fricked the Iranian people he made some claims to. Make it make sense Trump. Political pressure was the strongest bargaining chip on the table.
All leverage will have been completely wiped away. This sadly is a big giant failure should what is in the OP stands and nothing major comes from the next 60 days.
Again if all true Trump has fricked the Iranian people he made some claims to. Make it make sense Trump. Political pressure was the strongest bargaining chip on the table.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 1:32 am to joshnorris14
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The United States also undertakes to withdraw its forces from the surrounding areas within 30 days after the final agreement.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:19 am to northshorebamaman
Can we fire JD Vance now for this Art of the Gift peace plan?
Posted on 6/17/26 at 5:25 am to MrLSU
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Can we fire JD Vance now for this Art of the Gift peace plan?
I mean, only one person, but Brian Kilmeade on Fox is already deflecting and saying "This is JDs deal, not President Trumps".
Trump said he is going to hold a presser and read the agreement, but CNN, taking it with a grain of salt, is saying this:
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US negotiators are working to quickly release the text of the agreement between Washington and Tehran, even as they downplay the significance of the specific language in the document, US officials told CNN.
The officials described the text of the agreement as incredibly vague, mainly intended to create a more favorable environment for the highly technical, in-person talks to come. They added that the framework is aimed at providing Iran the ability to sell it politically to their internal audience.
Additionally, the officials said that the text of the memorandum of understanding — which Vice President JD Vance told CNN Monday is one-and-a-half pages long — didn’t reflect critical back-channel commitments Iran has made to the US, which they argued gave them more confidence in signing on to the arrangement.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 5:30 am to SlowFlowPro
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2. Lifting of sanctions, which means Iran is about to start selling the frick out of oil and making more hundreds of billions. China is going to come out of this stronger.
Prof says here that means a billion per week.
LINK
Posted on 6/17/26 at 5:33 am to MrLSU
JD is one of the only voices of reason in this administration on this situation. We didn’t hold the cards and needed to shut it down. It’s probably fake news, but the White House pushed back on some reporting that Hegseth and Ratcliffe might get fired as they haven’t shown enough support for the deal.
This post was edited on 6/17/26 at 5:35 am
Posted on 6/17/26 at 5:35 am to AlterEd
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Was the pee dosier made up? I know it took you forever to finally admit it,
I always said that was fake
You fail again
Posted on 6/17/26 at 5:36 am to RohanGonzales
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We are giving them nothing.
Obama just returned their money (with interest) as well
Posted on 6/17/26 at 5:36 am to LSUbest
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The new fund is a private investment vehicle, not a reconstruction or reparations programme and will not include any ?government money or grants
The pallets of cash did not include any government money or grants either
Posted on 6/17/26 at 5:38 am to imjustafatkid
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Everything is contingent on the final deal, which requires the removal of all nuclear material.
Where is that written?
What is the timeline for removal?
Posted on 6/17/26 at 6:26 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:I think this was money from ~1979 that was frozen, $400M along with interest. This was a settlement, as supposedly the U.S. was about to lose Iran’s lawsuit vs U.S. in court . Cash was given because sanctions on their banks wouldn’t allow transfers.
$1.7B of their own money released
quote:Money they had in international banks that was frozen from sanctions over the past several administrations.
There is talk there is $100B of their funds that may be released with this deal and sanctions being lifted.
A few observations about this MoU, if legit. It is extremely one-sided unless the yuan ceases to be used in their operations, and the U.S. ends up with a much greater hand/benefit in regional transactions (petroleum). Iran’s nuclear capabilities (the big 3) are likely in shambles, and their enriched uranium paste could actually be dust by now and they would have to start from scratch if their energy producing facilities have received equal damage. A tame Iran brings stability to the region and that could also greatly benefit the U.S. in multiple ways.
Also, if real, Iranian hardliners could wreak havoc soon and their political and domestic situation will turn to shite. The IRGC wields more power in Iran than any entity, including the direction of proxy activities, and it’s hard to see them backing this for long due to the wrecking they just received. If even a percentage of the funds are released, they may go right back to business as usual when they are rebuilt. The only way regional hostilities and proxy attacks stop is at their command. Israel has to be losing their mind over this, and it will be interesting to see if they blow this up quickly, possibly risking U.S. support going forward.
In summary, this MoU is surreal and one spark blows it to bits.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 6:33 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Yeah, this has been misrepresented over the years and the cash was the only way to give them their money back. Irregardless, it was a horrible look. I am not informed enough to know if a lost (likely) lawsuit had to be honored or what the ramifications would be if the U.S. refused. I suppose you are not an international lawyer, but hell, give it a shot counselor.
The pallets of cash did not include any government money or grants either
Posted on 6/17/26 at 6:38 am to DeltaDoc
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Why did we start this war again?
Something about 1979, Trump had always said Iran cannot have nukes, global terrorism, IRGC killed 40k Iranians, squeezing China, and more I'm sure I'm forgetting
Posted on 6/17/26 at 6:39 am to Pragmatist2025
Fox is rolling out the negative Nancy’s this morning… the panel have all bashed the “details” that are out there as well as the handful of guests.
Trump better get out and start selling this apparent shite sandwich bc he’s gonna lose his rational supporters pretty quickly if it is what has leaked.
Trump better get out and start selling this apparent shite sandwich bc he’s gonna lose his rational supporters pretty quickly if it is what has leaked.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 6:40 am to Lsut81
There is a reason JD Vance was out trying to do preemptive damage control yesterday begging the right to stay united.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 6:42 am to joshnorris14
Worst deal ever if true
Posted on 6/17/26 at 6:43 am to therick711
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The 300 billion is from Gulf countries willing to invest when sanctions are removed. Read the reportage.
Invest in Irans nuclear program? What the hell else would they be investing in?
Posted on 6/17/26 at 6:45 am to hubertcumberdale
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Invest in Irans nuclear program? What the hell else would they be investing in?
Additionally, all the stuff people pounded chest to pretend that we were winning, like the military, destroy infrastructure, etc.
Considering there are no guarantees for anything related to the nuke program in this deal right now, and Trump is already backtracking on his stance, there are legitimate questions as to what the US gained in this war.
Will Iran be stronger in 2-3 years than they were before the US/Israel started this war? Will China?
Posted on 6/17/26 at 6:46 am to RelicBatches86
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Were nukes the only concern? I was told the bombings started in Feb werent a new war because Iran and their groups have been targeting and killing Americans and our allies for 40 years. Whats preventing their unfrozen assets from filing the pocket books to fund more terrorist attacks? and werent we supposed to help out the Iranian protestors? Does this agreement do anything about Iran executing protestors?
No one really knows why we started the war and the reason we did seems to change from day to day depending on what’s going on that day in the war
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