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re: Text of the Iran Deal/MOU per Bloomberg
Posted on 6/17/26 at 8:58 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 6/17/26 at 8:58 am to SlowFlowPro
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I'll bet you JD Vance and Tulsi never wanted to get into this war
It was very public that Tulsi was against this "action". So much so, several neo-cons on here called her a shill.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 8:59 am to PaperTiger
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Its number 6 on the list. Its a point Trump flat out refutes. That's not really a spin.
Yes, but his refutation was that the U.S. isn’t using public funds to contribute to that financing.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 9:00 am to Mo Jeaux
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Yes, but his refutation was that the U.S. isn’t using public funds to contribute to that financing.
Exactly. Nobody is claiming that (on here at least).
If some leftist or Bill Kristol-type wants to lie on X about it, whatever. Nobody here is making that claim.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 9:01 am to UtahCajun
K go cry some more about Trump
Posted on 6/17/26 at 9:06 am to UtahCajun
Posted on 6/17/26 at 9:09 am to joshnorris14
Pause the war till after July 4th agreement.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 9:09 am to SDVTiger
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K go cry some more about Trump
So melty. I love it.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 9:17 am to SlowFlowPro
In 2021 China signed a deal with Iran to invest $400 billion. Should US tell China no? Russia has invested billions in oil sector. Should US tell Russia no too? Do we know Trump isn't talking about these? All I know right now is Trump is refuting US and Gulf state investments.
Side note, I wanted to point out that the second post of the entire thread you compared point 6 with Obama only giving Iran $1.7 billion.
If you truly believed that, then by default you thought the US was funding it. That a fair assumption?
Side note, I wanted to point out that the second post of the entire thread you compared point 6 with Obama only giving Iran $1.7 billion.
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While ensuring financing of at least $300 billion.
Obama only gave Iran $1.7B for comparison purposes.
If you truly believed that, then by default you thought the US was funding it. That a fair assumption?
Posted on 6/17/26 at 9:18 am to PaperTiger
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In 2021 China signed a deal with Iran to invest $400 billion. Should US tell China no?
What does this have to do with Trump's claims that the US isn't contributing to the $300B?
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All I know right now is Trump is refuting US and Gulf state investments.
Where did he refute Gulf State investments?
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If you truly believed that, then by default you thought the US was funding it. That a fair assumption?
The US didn't fund the $1.7B. It was Iran's money, similar to the $100B of Iran's money that will be released to Iran if sanctions are lifted.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 9:47 am to SlowFlowPro
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Obama only gave Iran $1.7B for comparison purposes.
The US isn't 'giving ' Iran anything.
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“Jessica(insert SLP), you’re making the same mistake, unfortunately, that a lot of the Iranian propagandists make when they talk about this,” Vance said.
“They talk about the benefits to the Iranians without any of the things the Iranians would have to give up and have to change in order to get those benefits,” Vance said.
“So you mentioned $300 billion fund, let’s be clear about this — not a single cent of American money under any circumstance, no matter what the Iranians do, goes to Iran, not a single cent of American money!” Vance said.
“But they got other money,” Tarlov said.
“Here’s what this says. This says, for example, let’s say that the United Arab Emirates, who have been a great ally, let’s say they want to invest in a power plant in Iran, what this deal provides is that if the Iranians have done everything we require them to do, then we will allow the United Arab Emirates to do that,” Vance said.
“But they can’t do that right now without American approval. So we’re fundamentally saying if the Iranians transform how they interact with the world, we will transform how the world economy interacts with Iran,” Vance said
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Posted on 6/17/26 at 9:53 am to SlowFlowPro
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The 3 worst parts of the deal 1. $300B + (I think there is a separate $100B of Iran's own money that will be freed, similar to the "pallets of cash" scenario with Obama, just larger)
2. Lifting of sanctions, which means Iran is about to start selling the frick out of oil and making more hundreds of billions. China is going to come out of this stronger.
3. No framework yet on the whole uranium issue that was spun as the reason to start this war. It's a "we promise to address that in the future" that can be extended indefinitely. Iran promising no nukes isn't worth the paper it's printed on. This is the 3rd or 4th admin where they've made the same promises.

Posted on 6/17/26 at 9:53 am to lake chuck fan
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The US isn't 'giving ' Iran anything.
I was using the language of MAGA, and as has been discussed since then, it's been clarified.
Obama's admin didn't "give" Iran anything, either.
This deal will permit Iran the same sort of access to their held money like the Obama deal, at a 58x rate, and that has nothing to do with the $300B "financing" you posted about (so it could be up to $400B total money going to the radical islamic regime)
Posted on 6/17/26 at 9:54 am to lake chuck fan
quote:and the ball room isn't tax payer funded. keep up.
The US isn't 'giving ' Iran anything.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 10:00 am to SlowFlowPro
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This deal will permit Iran the same sort of access to their held money like the Obama deal, at a 58x rate, and that has nothing to do with the $300B "financing" you posted about (so it could be up to $400B total money going to the radical islamic regime)
Same difference as far as the structure allowing Iran to actually receive the sanctioned funds. It's structured and depends on Iran's ongoing cooperation and adherence to conditions of the peace deal.
Iran doesn't suddenly on a certain day receive all of their currently sanctioned money.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 10:16 am to lake chuck fan
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It's structured and depends on Iran's ongoing cooperation and adherence to conditions of the peace deal. Iran doesn't suddenly on a certain day receive all of their currently sanctioned money.
Quoting this to see if this is true in 60 days.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 10:51 am to SlowFlowPro
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What does this have to do with Trump's claims that the US isn't contributing to the $300B?
You said Trump was spinning it. Trump plainly said, in the quotes I provided today, that the US wasn't giving Iran a cent.but he couldn't stop others from investing.
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Where did he refute Gulf State investments
He said he hasn't asked the Gulf States for anything. That's not really the US "ensuring" anything at the end of the day.
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The US didn't fund the $1.7B. It was Iran's money, similar to the $100B of Iran's money that will be released to Iran if sanctions are lifted.
400 million was Irans. Where did the other $1 3 billion in agreed interest come from?
Posted on 6/17/26 at 10:55 am to PaperTiger
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You said Trump was spinning it.
He appears to be doing just that
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Trump plainly said, in the quotes I provided today, that the US wasn't giving Iran a cent.but he couldn't stop others from investing.
Yes, which I have gone into detail explaining how that's spin.
Still has nothing to do with China
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He said he hasn't asked the Gulf States for anything. That's not really the US "ensuring" anything at the end of the day.
You're pivoting a great deal
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400 million was Irans. Where did the other $1 3 billion in agreed interest come from?
Money in bank accounts gain interest. I'm sure that $100B has some interest baked in, too.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 11:00 am to SlowFlowPro
"The Art of the Deal"
t's not really funny, though. It's sad in the end...
t's not really funny, though. It's sad in the end...
Posted on 6/17/26 at 11:04 am to VOR
Says the man who has never owned a single business.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 11:07 am to Ingeniero
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Spin a wheel and choose from this list: Lol Bloomberg Fake news Panican I guess I should've voted for Kamala So you want the war to continue instead? The $300 billion isn't taxpayer money so why do you care Joos You just don't know how to negotiate
You don’t like the agreement? Eliminate Irans nuclear program. Open the straight. Irans neighbors loan $300 billion. What is not to like?
This post was edited on 6/17/26 at 11:12 am
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