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re: Texas halting approval of Data Centers until audits are completed!

Posted on 8/4/26 at 4:16 pm to
Posted by BCvol
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Posted on 8/4/26 at 4:16 pm to
cooling systems can be scaled just like buildings and machinery. xAI's Colossus uses 3 million gallons a day, most comes from treated wastewater. To give some perspective of 3 million gallons. The Tn River in Knoxville carries 4.6 billion gallons/day.

As for electricity make them build their own generators
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 8/4/26 at 4:25 pm to
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WTF does the epa have to do with costs of local utilities and potential blackouts from not enough power sources?


Pollution and degradation of drinking water sources.
Posted by Jauquismos
Member since Jul 2023
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Posted on 8/4/26 at 4:30 pm to
Can they use swamp water?
Posted by GetmorewithLes
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Posted on 8/4/26 at 4:50 pm to
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When will Louisiana and Gov Landry do the same?


Texas is more power grid and water stressed than Louisiana.
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 8/4/26 at 5:04 pm to
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xAI's Colossus uses 3 million gallons a day, most comes from treated wastewater.


They are still using potable water and working towards full wastewater.

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to give some perspective of 3 million gallons.


More perspective - that is the daily water use for 30,000 US households. With expansion they are talking about it could get to 5 million gallons a day, which would be roughly the same consumption of Smyrna, TN.

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As for electricity make them build their own generators


Building the plants is not the issue, it is the water use that comes with them. Add that into it and xAI's Colossus water footprint will near the same as a city of 100,000.

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The Tn River in Knoxville carries 4.6 billion gallons/day.


Yes, we have water in the South East, that is not the argument. It is the false narrative data centers are not impacting water supplies. Having something abundant does not mean anything if the infrastructure is not there to extract and replenish it. Data centers are not evil, but they consume a lot of resources in electricity and water. We are building data centers faster than we are building the supporting infrastructure, and that is a valid complaint for communities to have.

Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
46437 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 5:14 pm to
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The Chinese are running the same playbook the Russians ran against us. The Russians funded leftwing organizations to oppose US oil and gas drilling because it threatened their oil and gas markets. Now the Chinese are funding the left and gullible “Republicans” to oppose data centers for the same reasons.

The Chinese aren’t going to stop building data centers but they certainly want us to stop building the infrastructure.


We don’t oppose data centers. If you haven’t noticed before, we have to be careful with our electrical grid. If it will strain the grid, there will need to be some expensive upgrades.
Posted by theballguy
HSV (Dealing only in satire)
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 8/4/26 at 5:17 pm to
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Now halt Mosque building



Posted by BCvol
Member since Jan 2022
728 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 6:12 pm to
When I drink a glass of water it impacts the water supply. The narrative floating around the NIMBY crowd is the data centers are going to use all the water which is a lie for a big chuck of the east. When you make them generate their own power like xAI is doing with Colossus the positives outweigh the negatives where water is abundant.
Posted by America250
Member since Jun 2026
145 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 6:16 pm to
Grand Gulf power goes to the MISO power grid.

The Midcontinent Independent System Operator (MISO) power grid covers parts of 15 U.S. states and Manitoba, Canada, managed through real-time operational boundaries split into the North, Central, and South subregions.
Posted by jp4lsu
Member since Sep 2016
7170 posts
Posted on 8/5/26 at 12:13 pm to
BCvol.....I agree 100% on them generating their own power or at least help state add more generation. For the water side of things I've seen where aquifers could be tapped. I'm 100% against that except maybe to replenish a closed loop system due to losses. That is a much smaller scale than an open loop system.

It is foolish for a state not to tap the brakes on power usage and water usage. I'm all for states doing this. Texas is pretty tight on power currently and aquifers are precious and shouldn't be used to cool AI data centers that can easily afford a closed loop system.

Currently my water well is struggling NW Fort Worth with no rain in July or Aug.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
17547 posts
Posted on 8/5/26 at 12:29 pm to
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Also, the new data centers are designed with minimal water usage.

The only water my data center used was sitting in a tank on top of the building to fill the sprinklers if they were triggered. Air conditioning was a different story, but that's not puling anything from an aquifer.
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
11476 posts
Posted on 8/5/26 at 12:30 pm to
Reading the source document for this thread, the Texas Commission is instructed to ban evaporative cooling schemes for data centers.

That's a good instruction.
Posted by BCvol
Member since Jan 2022
728 posts
Posted on 8/5/26 at 12:44 pm to
No rain for two months is insane. Places like that should be a no go for data centers.

Municipal water supplies shouldn’t be used for data centers either.
This post was edited on 8/5/26 at 12:45 pm
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
16075 posts
Posted on 8/5/26 at 12:49 pm to
I’m more worried about what the data centers will be storing than their water and energy usage.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
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Posted on 8/5/26 at 6:33 pm to
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The Tn River in Knoxville carries 4.6 billion gallons/day.


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Building the plants is not the issue, it is the water use that comes with them. Add that into it and xAI's Colossus water footprint will near the same as a city of 100,000.


I hate to say it but this is so out of context. The Mississippi River carries 48 trillion gallons per day at Old River Structure south of Natchez. This is average flow per day; not peak. Also into consideration is water quality. Many of our power plants take in raw river water and use it once through, put a few degrees of heat, and return it to where it came from with no additives or treatment.

The paper mill I used to work at used 45 million gpd and it all had to be processed in and out.

Now to your point, you put this in AZ and you got a problem. In the SEC footprint it is not a problem.

Power supply is the biggest issue depending again on where it is and the availability of power or cogen capabilities.

From recent press on data centers I believe I could put a Methyl Ethyl Death plant and all its env and safety issues down the street from most of these people before they would have a data center.

The biggest problem Data Centers have is most everyone hates their owners. They are all big super rich tech companies and nobody likes them right now, left or right.
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
11474 posts
Posted on 8/5/26 at 7:03 pm to
Why don’t you stop spreading CCP propaganda and utter nonsense?
Posted by theCrusher
Slidell
Member since Nov 2007
1813 posts
Posted on 8/5/26 at 7:11 pm to
It’s interesting watching Texas fall

1. Overrun with jeets
2. Muslims creating enclaves and soon to follow sharia law
3. Becoming anti business
4. The rapid rise of communist politicians

The Texas culture I grew up with is withering on a vine
Posted by Hognutz
Member since Sep 2018
2689 posts
Posted on 8/5/26 at 7:55 pm to
The whole country is going to shite at warp speed under the guidance of the father of the vaccines leadership. The surveillance state kicked into high gear on day one this term. Literally the first order of action with the tech oligarchs.
This post was edited on 8/5/26 at 7:58 pm
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
13803 posts
Posted on 8/9/26 at 12:40 pm to
LINK

President Donald Trump criticized Texas Governor Greg Abbott's recent temporary pause on new data center approvals, calling the policy a "mistake". Trump argued that the facilities bring massive economic value that could eventually rival Texas oil, whereas Abbott defended the restriction as a necessary audit to protect local water supplies and the state power grid.

Trump is pushing the shite. Abbott did exactly what TEXANS have been asking for. Sid Miller finally naw'd his ear enough.

By the way, your meme, Bless your heart.
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