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re: State witness testifies about the fatal stabbing of Austin Metcalf

Posted on 6/6/26 at 7:36 pm to
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 6/6/26 at 7:36 pm to
quote:

It was just meant to show that the prosecutors tried to establish a pretty sound case for premeditation.

I don’t think you described a good case for it. But I still think you nailed it with that paragraph I quoted.
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 6/6/26 at 7:49 pm to
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
36343 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 7:56 pm to
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Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
104575 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 8:09 pm to
Hard R looping?
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
36343 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 8:15 pm to
quote:

Hard R looping?


Yes. Repeating the same stupid overconfident phrase while in a state of anxiety.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
104575 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 8:16 pm to
The term is a new one on me though the action isn’t.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
36343 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 8:20 pm to
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The term is a new one on me though the action isn’t.


Yes I’ve witnessed it numerous times but never heard the term. In all fairness to blacks I’ve seen white people do it too.
Posted by Kcrad
Diamondhead
Member since Nov 2010
67290 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 8:27 pm to
quote:

Repeating the same stupid overconfident phrase while in a state of anxiety.
It's an easily recognizable warning sign that an attack is immenint.
Posted by schwag
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2014
302 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 8:46 pm to
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And there it is, this will be ruled self defense


Same as Trayvon Martin. Right? Self defense. You’re a clown.
This post was edited on 6/6/26 at 8:49 pm
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
158717 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 8:47 pm to
So leaning in is a death sentence?
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23209 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 8:49 pm to
not even close. You can't stab someone to death if they "lean in to shove you." There's no way you can argue that someone reasonably fears for their life and has to respond with lethal force because someone is pushing them out from under a tent that they've been asked to leave.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
21529 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 10:12 pm to
I don't know Texas law, but I do recall those two idiots in GA a few years ago who lost the ability to claim self defense because they had illegally detained the victim at gun point..

In this case I think it could be argued that because KA illegally carried a weapon onto school grounds or a school function where weapons are prohibited, he lost his right to claim self defense... A quick google search says it's a 3rd degree felony.

quote:

Texas is a "Stand Your Ground" state, meaning you generally have no legal obligation to run away before defending yourself. However, according to Texas Penal Code § 9.31(e), the right to stand your ground only applies if you are "not engaged in criminal activity at the time the force is used.


quote:

In a standard Texas self-defense case, the law presumes your fear was reasonable if you are protecting yourself against an intruder in your home, vehicle, or business. However, under ?Texas Penal Code § 9.31, this legal presumption is completely defeated if you are actively engaged in criminal activity (other than a minor traffic violation).


I think I answered my own question.. By carrying a weapon onto school grounds/ property, he was engaged in a 3rd degree felony. According to Texas law, he lost his right to stand his ground and had a duty to retreat. Secondly, he lost the presumption of reasonableness, meaning he lost the presumption that he was in reasonable fear for his life.. He fricked himself the moment he stepped on school grounds with a knife.

Also, Provocation (" Baiting" the Victim): Under Texas Penal Code § 9.31(b)(4), you cannot claim self-defense if you purposely provoked the other person into using force as a pretext to attack them

Repeatedly daring Metcalf to "touch me and find out" is most definitely provocation.
This post was edited on 6/6/26 at 10:26 pm
Posted by AquaAg84
Member since May 2013
3952 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 10:30 pm to
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This post was edited on 6/7/26 at 12:17 am
Posted by maizegoblue
Florida
Member since Jan 2011
2335 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 6:02 am to


Has this dude commented yet?
This post was edited on 6/7/26 at 6:03 am
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28371 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 7:04 am to
quote:

Yes. Repeating the same stupid overconfident phrase while in a state of anxiety.


Definitely a thing.
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
13437 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 7:34 am to
quote:

prosecutors tried to establish a pretty sound case for premeditation.

I didn't see anyone mention the fact that he went in there with a folding knife...already unfolded.

He knew what he was going to do when he went in that tent.
Posted by AubieinNC2009
Mountain NC
Member since Dec 2018
7348 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 8:53 pm to
quote:

Same as Trayvon Martin. Right? Self defense. You’re a clown.


looks like my sarcasm/assholeness did not come through.

I think this idiot is guilty as can be, but you just know the reverends and community organizers will be out pushing the self defense BS
Posted by Fat Bastard
alter hunter
Member since Mar 2009
91475 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 9:17 pm to
execute dat piece a chit
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
66920 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 10:11 pm to
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
89318 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 10:29 pm to
quote:

I think I answered my own question.. By carrying a weapon onto school grounds/ property, he was engaged in a 3rd degree felony. According to Texas law, he lost his right to stand his ground and had a duty to retreat.


Not only that, but being suspended from school, he shouldn’t have been at the meet at all. He was trespassing.
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