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re: State witness testifies about the fatal stabbing of Austin Metcalf

Posted on 6/6/26 at 7:22 am to
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
21256 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 7:22 am to
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Premeditated doesn’t have to be days or hours. When he said “touch me and find out” while having his hand on a knife, he had made the decision to kill.


It was definitely premeditated.

Did I read correctly that this thug had previously had a run in at school with a knife?
Posted by Pragmatist2025
Member since Jun 2025
1373 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 7:30 am to
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I dont think you’re familiar with the Texas murder statutes
Particularly concerning premeditation, as I just familiarized myself with them. Don’t mess with Texas indeed.
Posted by MasterDigger
Member since Nov 2019
3069 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 7:42 am to
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Karmelo




Posted by AUIH1
Logan Martin Lake, Talladega, AL
Member since Oct 2012
585 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 7:44 am to
Yep! Us crackers need to have our heads on a swivel around boos and culcha!
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
28127 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 7:58 am to
There is a difference between blacks and this type of kid. My business partner at work was black. Well educated, well spoken and a great guy.

This kid is none of the above. Ghetto trash
Posted by Kcrad
Diamondhead
Member since Nov 2010
68086 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 8:01 am to
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I do t think you’re familiar with the Texas murder statutes
Capital Murder, Murder and Manslaughter is all Texas has to offer when it comes to homicide.
He will probably be convicted of one of the first two.
Posted by Kcrad
Diamondhead
Member since Nov 2010
68086 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 8:09 am to
Here's the information concerning Texas murder statutes

quote:

Texas criminal homicide is primarily divided into murder, capital murder, and manslaughter, and is detailed in ?Chapter 19 of the Texas Penal Code.

Standard murder is a first-degree felony punishable by 5 to 99 years (or life) in prison, while capital murder carries an automatic life sentence without parole or the death penalty.Texas Murder Statute (Section 19.02)A person commits standard murder if they ?Section 19.02 of the Texas Penal Code:Intentionally or knowingly cause the death of an individual.Intend to cause serious bodily injury and commit an act clearly dangerous to human life that results in death.Commit or attempt to commit a felony (other than manslaughter), and during the act or flight, commit an act clearly dangerous to human life that causes death (felony murder rule).Capital Murder Statute (Section 19.03)

A standard murder elevates to capital murder if aggravating factors are present ?Section 19.03 of the Texas Penal Code. These include:Murdering a peace officer or firefighter acting in an official capacity.Committing murder during the commission (or attempted commission) of a felony such as kidnapping, burglary, robbery, aggravated sexual assault, arson, obstruction, or retaliation.Committing murder for hire or financial gain.Murdering someone while escaping or attempting to escape a penal institution.Murdering an employee of a penal institution by an incarcerated individual.Committing murder while serving a life sentence.Murdering more than one person during the same criminal transaction.Murdering a child younger than 10 years old (or under 15 years old in certain sexual abuse cases).Murdering a judge or justice in retaliation for their official service.


It's all covered on Google.
Posted by DeplorableTerrorizer
Member since Nov 2025
341 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 8:12 am to
I dont know if they can get premeditation, but he definitely went there willing to use the knife before anything happened.
Posted by Pragmatist2025
Member since Jun 2025
1373 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 8:12 am to
Their premeditation threshold doesn’t leave much wiggle room.
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
28127 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 8:14 am to
Not premeditated. Definitely murder. Kid is going to jail and absolutely should
Posted by Pragmatist2025
Member since Jun 2025
1373 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 8:21 am to
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Not premeditated. Definitely murder.
I would normally agree with the former. The Texas definition is slightly broader than most others. It may not meet that bar, but it’ll be a tight race between 1st and 2nd degree according to their statute of such.
Posted by Kcrad
Diamondhead
Member since Nov 2010
68086 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 8:51 am to
I'm not a lawyer but from what Google AI gave me, I don't even see the word premeditated mentioned. Maybe the conditions covered in the different categories has it covered?
Posted by Pragmatist2025
Member since Jun 2025
1373 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 9:02 am to
In Texas, the concept equivalent to premeditation is the requirement that the defendant acted intentionally or knowingly.

Intentional or Knowing conduct: Texas law requires the state to prove the defendant acted intentionally (it was their conscious objective to cause death) or knowingly (they were practically certain their conduct would cause death).

Lower bar than premeditated planning IMO.
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
52462 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 9:15 am to
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There is a difference between blacks and this type of kid. My business partner at work was black. Well educated, well spoken and a great guy.
And clean. Thanks, Biden!
Posted by AUIH1
Logan Martin Lake, Talladega, AL
Member since Oct 2012
585 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 10:24 am to
I agree 100%. I had a black neighbor when I lived in metro-ATL who became a very good friend of mine and was my landscaping mentor. It is primarily black males under 30 that we should keep our guard up for.
Posted by Godzilla jr
Member since Sep 2025
384 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 10:42 am to
Blacks are inconsiderate and ignorant so I can totally see it
Posted by Crimson K
Tuscaloosa
Member since Dec 2018
7583 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 12:03 pm to
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And it might apply in this case had the victim not been initiating contact


You said you agree with the testimony so far in which:
-the victim verbally said he had no intention of fighting
-the push and the stabbing were called virtually simultaneous
-the accused had multiple chances to leave a place he was not welcomed after being asked an estimated 15 times
-the accused allegedly saying “see what happens”
-the accused verbally escalated the confrontation
-the accused is portrayed as having his hand on the knife in the bag throughout the encounter

The prosecution has pretty firmly established that KA made a conscious decision to remain, had already decided to ready himself for a violent confrontation with his hand on the knife, verbally escalated the situation (to which Metcalf responded he had no intention of escalating), and reacted simultaneously to Metcalf lightly shouldering him with extreme force that he had decided on with forethought.

I doubt the kid came there to murder anyone, but my best guess is he is a functional moron with zero impulse control, who when called out for being in the wrong place, felt disrespected in the stupidest of senses. He likely decided that he wasn’t going to accept having to back down, so he escalated a situation to the point of murder. He can’t claim stand your ground as he was the one in the wrong place. He can’t claim self defense at this point; he has no witnesses to corroborate it and contradict the multiple testimonies from the prosecution, and his attorneys would be fools to let him anywhere near the stand. His defense team ought to have him IQ tested. He may literally be too dumb to stand trial. That seems like his only hope.
Posted by Swampcat
Member since Dec 2003
12850 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 12:09 pm to
Karmello looks like a punk
Posted by ForTheWin81
Member since Nov 2021
1762 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 2:50 pm to
Turns out he is the former stepdad of a super based black Youtuber
Posted by Swampcat
Member since Dec 2003
12850 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 3:51 pm to
Lol
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