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re: St Louis first covid death: 31 year old with "zero health issues"
Posted on 3/26/20 at 6:12 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Posted on 3/26/20 at 6:12 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
OP nobody said people under 65 couldn't die from the virus, its just more of one offs. What we do know is that 99.1% have more or more pre-existing conditions. This girl looks like she is way past the obese stage, she probably couldn't walk up 10 flights of stairs. This thing attacks the lungs and if one does not have the lung capacity it certainly is possible to die.
I feel like you were attempting to setup a strawman.
Oh by the way... people die every day.
I feel like you were attempting to setup a strawman.
Oh by the way... people die every day.
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Posted on 3/26/20 at 6:15 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
So a 31 year old as obese as her has no other conditions?
How about obesity to start with? High blood pressure? Heart problems? Thyroid? She looks like a potential parasite haven doesn’t she?
How about obesity to start with? High blood pressure? Heart problems? Thyroid? She looks like a potential parasite haven doesn’t she?
This post was edited on 3/26/20 at 6:19 am
Posted on 3/26/20 at 6:31 am to Little Trump
I am not a doctor but I know that when you have a poor diet or you smoke or drink heavily or otherwise just practice a crappy lifestyle that your body is in a state of inflammation due to toxins and preservatives and excess salt and minerals being filtered from your body. It is no secret then that when your body is in a position where it has to fight a invasive Virus that it fails
Posted on 3/26/20 at 6:35 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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zero health issues"
Fake news.
Posted on 3/26/20 at 6:37 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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according to family members
Yeah, I'm just gonna leave this right here
Posted on 3/26/20 at 6:41 am to RobbBobb
Not to be insensitive, but most ambulatory surgery centers wouldn't deliver general anesthesia to her because of her BMI. Too much risk.
Posted on 3/26/20 at 6:45 am to Little Trump
- 99.1% of the people dying have at least one pre-existing condition
- I believe I saw 70% of the people actually had two or more pre-existing conditions (although I can't find the stats on that one right this second)
- males are more likely to die than females, probably due to heart disease and shorter life expectancy i.e. old age
- 95% of the people put on vents in China died right there in the hospital, never made it out (probably unlikely many will make it to 1 year)
- smoking is very likely to be a factor but I haven't seen any stats on that i.e. reduced lung capacity
If you're a fat frick, and you can't walk up the stairs without breathing heavy. Chances are you could be more impacted by this at even a younger age - for the most part though, this is a elderly sick and probably obese virus.
Lung capacity.
- I believe I saw 70% of the people actually had two or more pre-existing conditions (although I can't find the stats on that one right this second)
- males are more likely to die than females, probably due to heart disease and shorter life expectancy i.e. old age
- 95% of the people put on vents in China died right there in the hospital, never made it out (probably unlikely many will make it to 1 year)
- smoking is very likely to be a factor but I haven't seen any stats on that i.e. reduced lung capacity
If you're a fat frick, and you can't walk up the stairs without breathing heavy. Chances are you could be more impacted by this at even a younger age - for the most part though, this is a elderly sick and probably obese virus.
Lung capacity.
This post was edited on 3/26/20 at 6:50 am
Posted on 3/26/20 at 6:48 am to russellvillehog
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probably a smoker
From someone close to me in the medical field, this is a lot of the cases for the young ones dying. Smokers that are obese are having a hard time with this virus, regardless of age.
Posted on 3/26/20 at 7:03 am to GeauxFightingTigers1
quote:Doesn't matter if your case is one where it causes bilateral pneumonia and your immune response worsens that.
Lung capacity
I know many are clinging to the obese angle, but this will kill some healthy people.
Posted on 3/26/20 at 7:05 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Sorry? Based on the picture, "no known health issues" except being obese?
Posted on 3/26/20 at 7:05 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
We need more studies, but I'm gonna go out a limb and say.... twinkies do not kill covid19
This post was edited on 3/26/20 at 7:18 am
Posted on 3/26/20 at 7:07 am to GeauxFightingTigers1
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99.1% of the people dying have at least one pre-existing condition - I believe I saw 70% of the people actually had two or more pre-existing conditions (although I can't find the stats on that one right this second)
Close.
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Moreover, the presence of any coexisting illness was more common among patients with severe disease than among those with nonsevere disease (38.7% vs. 21.0%).
LINK
Posted on 3/26/20 at 7:08 am to Jake88
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Doesn't matter if your case is one where it causes bilateral pneumonia and your immune response worsens that.
I know many are clinging to the obese angle, but this will kill some healthy people.
This is clearly a elderly sick bug, just because someone might get the bug and die as a young person or one in which a pre-existing condition is not known... doesn't make it something its not.
99.1% of the people had at least one pre-existing condition, what are the chances the .9% didn't know they had one?
If one can't walk up 10 flight of stairs without heavy breathing than you're in the danger zone... she clearly was not healthy and probably have multiple pre-existing conditions. There can be one offs but there is plenty of data on this.
Lung capacity or lack of.
If Barry was still in office, this probably wouldn't even be on the news.
This post was edited on 3/26/20 at 7:09 am
Posted on 3/26/20 at 7:08 am to GeauxFightingTigers1
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If you're a fat frick, and you can't walk up the stairs without breathing heavy. Chances are you could be more impacted by this
The majority of people dying have 3 commodities. 97% of deaths come by way of ARDS (Acute respiratory distress syndrome).
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fluid builds up in the tiny, elastic air sacs (alveoli) in your lungs. The fluid keeps your lungs from filling with enough air, which means less oxygen reaches your bloodstream. This deprives your organs of the oxygen they need to function.
ARDS typically occurs in people who are already critically ill or who have significant injuries. Severe shortness of breath — the main symptom of ARDS — usually develops within a few hours to a few days after the precipitating injury or infection.
The quickness of her death means she developed ARDS. Her obesity kept her from getting the oxygen her organs required to help her fight off the infection.
Posted on 3/26/20 at 7:08 am to Mruga
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There are almost no reliable infection numbers or modern medical infrastructure in SS Africa.
FIFY
Posted on 3/26/20 at 7:10 am to bayoumuscle21
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From someone close to me in the medical field, this is a lot of the cases for the young ones dying. Smokers that are obese are having a hard time with this virus, regardless of age.
You’re probably correct. However, the study I linked in my post above indicates of those (in the study) who were hospitalized for treatment of Covid-19, 85% of them had never smoked.
And 55% of the patients were in the 15-49 age bracket (that’s their bracket, not mine). IOW, over half of those hospitalized (a sample size of over 1,000 patients) were under 50.
This post was edited on 3/26/20 at 7:11 am
Posted on 3/26/20 at 7:16 am to Jake88
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I know many are clinging to the obese angle, but this will kill some healthy people.
No no no
It’s fatties and people who aren’t like me.
Posted on 3/26/20 at 7:18 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Covid is racist
Posted on 3/26/20 at 7:21 am to the808bass
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And 55% of the patients were in the 15-49 age bracket (that’s their bracket, not mine). IOW, over half of those hospitalized (a sample size of over 1,000 patients) were under 50.
There are many more people below 50 than over 50 in this country, which is why the numbers are skewed for hospitalizations. At the end of the day, this is a sick elderly virus, meaning deaths.
My guess, once we have anti-body testing, we'll find out this virus has a death rate lower than the flu or similar. I would probably bet a large sum of money I already had it.
This post was edited on 3/26/20 at 7:24 am
Posted on 3/26/20 at 7:23 am to League Champs
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Her obesity kept her from getting the oxygen her organs required to help her fight off the infection.
Obese people generally have no idea just how sick they really are.
A modern, mechanically assisted, sedentary and at the same time, happy life insulates them from the natural feedback of the degree of their illness.
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