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re: St. Louis couple under criminal investigation

Posted on 6/30/20 at 12:16 pm to
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 12:16 pm to
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It can take him four or five pages to get there. But he ends up on the progressive/authoritarian side of the argument probably 90% of the time.
I often find myself genuinely curious as to how you have decided that I have "taken a side" in many of these discussions.

Here, I have taken two positions.

I have opined in favor of prosecuting the "protesters" who trespassed and destroyed private property. I have also opined that the homeowners accepted the likelihood of social approbation for their actions in defending their property.

I am a loss to understand how either of those positions is either "progressive" or "authoritarian." I submit that perhaps those words do not mean what you believe them to mean.
Posted by Geauxboy
NW Arkansas
Member since Oct 2006
4856 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 12:18 pm to
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t anyone who understands and promotes gun safety can see they're both fricking idiots who have never held a gun before


Yet they managed to defend their property.
Posted by TS1926
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
8038 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 12:19 pm to
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Don't recall him pointing it at them with his finger on the trigger. I saw her waving the pistol around but did not see what you are claiming. He claims that one or more of the mob members aimed guns at them.


OK I see that now but look at my original statement again. You didn't prove anything with that pic.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128773 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 12:22 pm to
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I have also opined that the homeowners accepted the likelihood of social approbation for their actions in defending their property.


You may have made one more point with regards to their defense of their property.
Posted by DeusVultMachina
Member since Jul 2017
4245 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 12:23 pm to
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don’t know why he plays this role.


Because he is an intersectional marxist. He is not a "libertarian" and never has been. He thinks himself to be among the "elite" on the left because "muh austin law bona fides", but they would stand his cattle ranching podunk law shingle arse in front of the wall too. He, like many, won't realize that fact until it is way too late to change his ways and join the good guys.

I really feel sorry for him actually.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30551 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 12:24 pm to
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You would have to ask a Missouri attorney about the statute in that state.


Anders Walker, a constitutional law professor at St. Louis University, said Monday that it was “very dangerous” for the McCloskeys to engage with protesters by brandishing guns, but Missouri’s Castle Doctrine allows them to defend their property on Portland Place, a private street.

Here you go buddy... maybe I can help you finally make a contribution to this board... Good grief you suck...
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14682 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 12:26 pm to
Mark and Patricia McCloskey, the homeowners seen in the now-viral video, are being investigated by the St. Louis Police Department and the city's circuit attorney, Kimberly Garder, in the wake of Sunday night's confrontation, Gardner announced in a statement late Monday.

“I am alarmed at the events that occurred over the weekend, where peaceful protesters were met by guns and a violent assault,” Gardner said. “We must protect the right to peacefully protest, and any attempt to chill it through intimidation or threat of deadly force will not be tolerated.”

This level of stupidity should be actionable. Citizens should be able to sue for impeachment purposes, if not damages. Breaking down the gate to the property, shouting "eat the rich" does not constitute "peaceful protesters" to anyone with a functioning brain.

OTOH, if the actions of these rioters does constitute peaceful protest, then someone needs to get this bitch's address, and do a little peaceful protesting at her house.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
17458 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 12:26 pm to
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In many states (including Texas), the THREAT of imminent bodily harm constitutes a justiciable "assault."


Per the actual statutory definition of “assault”, yes.

She added the adjective “violent” to the word which is ludicrous.
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
30763 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 12:26 pm to
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investigated by local law enforcement.


No, the dumbfrick CA is trying to get them investigated.

Kim Gardner is an incompetent boob

Her % of convictions is in the low 40's. And that's including plea deals which are counted as wins, regardless of how bad the CA plead down.

She is a perfect example of what Soros wanted when he backed all these CA/DA around the country
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45554 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 12:27 pm to


Destruction of personal property and trespassing is not a form of peaceful protests. Way to waste tax payer $$$ Ms Gardner.
Posted by TS1926
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
8038 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 12:28 pm to
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Because he is an intersectional marxist. He is not a "libertarian" and never has been. He thinks himself to be among the "elite" on the left because "muh austin law bona fides", but they would stand his cattle ranching podunk law shingle arse in front of the wall too. He, like many, won't realize that fact until it is way too late to change his ways and join the good guys.


LOL and let's think what he would do when this mob shows up at his front door? Dazzle them with his superior wit and intellect?
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
27241 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 12:29 pm to
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This is unbelievable.


Crazy when the legal system turns against you.....
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24273 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 12:37 pm to
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the808bass


Probably a stupid question, but are local news holding this da accountable to this disgustingly dishonest statement?
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
30763 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 12:41 pm to
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Probably a stupid question, but are local news holding this da accountable to this disgustingly dishonest statement?


Dude, our local news are super liberal. Only Conservatives at the TV stations are 2-3 sports guys.

MY Father takes one of the local news guys to the woodshed over his Liberal lies. Especially when it comes to cops. I laugh when he tells me he's busy, responding to the moron via email.
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
30763 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 12:43 pm to
I don't give a shite if those 2 gave to Trump, they are 100% Blue Dogs. They have voted Blue their whole lives.

And their statement after the event, confirms it. And they will continue voting Dems into City Government.


I think that Trump donation is their conscience, which is clouded by libtardism..
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
108309 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 12:51 pm to
Peaceful protests are peaceful until they aren't. Trespassing into private neighborhoods is meant to intimidate private citizens, not peacefully protest anything. frick these people. When will conservative politicians grow a pair of balls.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30551 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 12:54 pm to
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When will conservative politicians grow a pair of balls.


Is they any such animal in St Louis?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128773 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 12:58 pm to
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Probably a stupid question, but are local news holding this da accountable to this disgustingly dishonest statement?


I don’t watch local news.

Probably not. She’s woke and they’re scared of her.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30551 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 1:01 pm to
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Here, I have taken two positions.


Did Hank go for a nap?
Posted by TigerStripes30
Alexandria, LA
Member since Dec 2011
6407 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 1:30 pm to
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You can't swing a pistol around with your finger on the trigger at people 25-30 yards from you and not expect repercussions, no matter if they tore down your gate or not


as a gun totin' lover of 2A...i hear you and no its not ethical to do so but it is not against the law either...they would be under the same scrutiny if they didnt point it and had good trigger finger location
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