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re: St. Louis couple under criminal investigation
Posted on 6/30/20 at 12:01 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
Posted on 6/30/20 at 12:01 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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Ask him if he would let them know about it with his finger on the trigger while pointing it at them. Go ahead, ask him
Don't recall him pointing it at them with his finger on the trigger. I saw her waving the pistol around but did not see what you are claiming. He claims that one or more of the mob members aimed guns at them.
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Posted on 6/30/20 at 12:01 pm to Steadmans Cheddar
quote:Exhibit One for the proposition that you should not be taking legal advice from the TDPT mob.
Kind of like if you were walking down the street and saw someone breaking into a random furniture store. That's someone else's private property. But you're free to shoot them according to the posts here.
Apparently Missouri's duty to retreat (cited above) is much narrower than in most states, but I am not aware of ANY state in which the actions you describe would constitute a valid defense in the inevitable prosecution which would arise from the hypothetical shooting that you describe.
This post was edited on 6/30/20 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 6/30/20 at 12:02 pm to AggieHank86
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simply said that they should have been AWARE of the repercussion and that they therefore clearly were WILLING to ACCEPT those repercussions.
They make their living as lawyers. And they defend civil rights issues and protestors. They understood completely.
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Illiteracy makes me sad.
What do illiercy mean
This post was edited on 6/30/20 at 12:03 pm
Posted on 6/30/20 at 12:04 pm to The Maj
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Maybe pictures will help you...
Now let's look at the after photo
Just some peaceful protesters who were peacefully marching to the mayor's house. These homeowners had no right to believe they were in danger!!
Posted on 6/30/20 at 12:04 pm to GumboPot
She can go frick herself
Posted on 6/30/20 at 12:04 pm to CleverUserName
quote:In many states (including Texas), the THREAT of imminent bodily harm constitutes a justiciable "assault."
Violent Assault? Did I miss something?
You would have to ask a Missouri attorney about the statute in that state.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 12:04 pm to AggieHank86
And no one suggested that you can shoot someone robbing another’s furniture store.
You two would make a great couple though.
You two would make a great couple though.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 12:05 pm to TS1926
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but did not see what you are claiming
Posted on 6/30/20 at 12:06 pm to AggieHank86
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In many states (including Texas), the THREAT of imminent bodily harm constitutes a justiciable "assault."
You would have to ask a Missouri attorney about the statute in that state.
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Posted on 6/30/20 at 12:07 pm to roadGator
Faggie just wants these people to pay for not prostrating themselves to the mob. It's hilarious how he claims to be a libertarian yet sides with the progressive Hitler youth every time.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 12:08 pm to Breesus
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They legally did nothing wrong, but they’re ignorant dangerous gun owners. In 2020 there’s no excuse for that. You can learn basic rudimentary gun safety from Google and YouTube . And if you own a gun you should absolutely understand how dangerous of a tool it can be and how to properly use and care for it.
Correct. I think you have two people who own guns just out of necessity. They've probably believed they would never have to use them. Frankly, this could have been worse if one of them had inadvertently fired off a round. The couple was obviously frightened and lacked proper practice and training which magnified their poor gun handling.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 12:10 pm to upgrayedd
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how he claims to be a libertarian yet sides with the progressive Hitler youth every time.
It can take him four or five pages to get there. But he ends up on the progressive/authoritarian side of the argument probably 90% of the time.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 12:12 pm to the808bass
It's because people like him think they're the arbiter of all issues. The smarmy faux intellectualism these people possess lead them to those inevitable conclusions. In his mind he's the alpha and the omega.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 12:13 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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but did not see what you are claiming
yes and what is the mob member with the bag on his shoulder doing? I also said the lady was waving the gun around.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 12:13 pm to upgrayedd
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It's hilarious how he claims to be a libertarian
That’s what leftists do. Choose a name that has nothing to do with their beliefs and hide behind the name regardless of actions.
People’s Republic of China
Black Lives Matter
Antifa
Democratic Party
Posted on 6/30/20 at 12:13 pm to upgrayedd
I don’t know why he plays this role.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 12:13 pm to TS1926
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yes and what is the mob member with the bag on his shoulder doing?
Holding a boom mic
Posted on 6/30/20 at 12:14 pm to Breesus
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Pointing a gun at someone is almost the definition of armed assault, in likely every state.
Hank, to be clear, I was being sarcastic in my earlier post. I think people don't realize the nuance in that the street is private property, and these folks are trespassing, but without detailed knowledge of MO law, use of the castle doctrine is pretty murky in this case. May end up being moot if they took a single step on the lawn, or if verbal threats were made. Regardless, a lot of fact-finding necessary.
People were wrong to trespass. People were wrong to destroy/damage property. Pointing weapons at those people may still not be legally defensible.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 12:14 pm to upgrayedd
In fairness, he would probably take the opposite position on a more liberal board.
But that also may be a sign of a mental pathology.
But that also may be a sign of a mental pathology.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 12:15 pm to AggieHank86
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You would have to ask a Missouri attorney about the statute in that state.
Still sucking it up Hank... maybe you need to try after a nap or something buddy...
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