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re: St. Louis couple under criminal investigation
Posted on 6/30/20 at 11:46 am to BuckyCheese
Posted on 6/30/20 at 11:46 am to BuckyCheese
The sat view shows there are gates at both ends of the neighborhood
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Posted on 6/30/20 at 11:46 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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You can't swing a pistol around with your finger on the trigger at people 25-30 yards from you and not expect repercussions, no matter if they tore down your gate or not
Was finger on trigger?
Was safety on?
What kind of firearm was it?
Was it even loaded?
Was it a gun, plastic relica, or bb pistol?
And yes, it does matter dip shite. It's private property that was forcefully taken over even after numerous verbal warnings.
One step closer by any of them onto the property and skulls would have been peeled back - and rightfully so.
Go frick yourself on the hyperbole of repercussions.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 11:47 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
What is your point here? Make one.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 11:47 am to The Maj
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The mob was standing in his yard at one point...
there it is, and the first time I have seen it posted (if there were others, I "missed" them like 808 did my first post). That's all I needed, thanks
This post was edited on 6/30/20 at 11:49 am
Posted on 6/30/20 at 11:47 am to the808bass
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Someone who knows the area, and has been in there, says it has a keycoded gate to enter.
Portland doesn’t even intersect Lindell.
Wasn't saying that. Was saying there is like one entrance to the neighborhood that has a coded gate. That's how it was described.
The others, like at Linedell, appear to have manual, locked, gates for emergency access.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 11:48 am to AggieHank86
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Everyone who touched that gate SHOULD be prosecuted
No. Everyone that touched it and went through it.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 11:49 am to The Maj
quote:Correct and correct.
McCloskey had a right to be there, the mob did not...
Also irrelevant to the Castle Doctrine.
Thib-Tiger seems to want to actually KNOW the underlying ownership facts, so that he can conduct an informed analysis of the legal exposure in this situation.
A desire to gather relevant facts does NOT make one a moron.
Refusal to do so, on the other hand .....
Posted on 6/30/20 at 11:50 am to AggieHank86
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but they CLEARLY should have known that they would be facing social repercussions.
A group of rabid lunatics belonging to an organization that preaches destruction and violence based on skin color tears down a private property gate and begins to storm the property and you think no one should have been worried about them or stopped them because of the social repercussions?
People like you are why the Gulags and Concentration Camps can operate.
This post was edited on 6/30/20 at 11:52 am
Posted on 6/30/20 at 11:51 am to CoachDon
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One step closer by any of them onto the property and skulls would have been peeled back - and rightfully so.
Why one step closer tho? Apparently they had the go ahead to mow down the entire group where they stood
Posted on 6/30/20 at 11:51 am to Breesus
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Hypothetically, because I have no guns because my boat sank, if they are outside in my yard damaging my property, but not at my house or directly threatening to harm me, I will let them know that I have a weapon and let them know if they come too close to my house ill shoot them. Then I'll call the cops and let them handle it while keeping an eye on them and my weapon at the ready to defend myself and family
Thank you for the answer. So you ultimately agree with what the couple did but had issues with their gun safety?
This post was edited on 6/30/20 at 11:52 am
Posted on 6/30/20 at 11:53 am to AggieHank86
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Also irrelevant to the Castle Doctrine.
In Missouri, you can pull a gun out wherever you have a right to be if you are threatened.
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According to Findlaw.com, Missouri's law is more extensive than those of other states because it allows you to use deadly force to attack an intruder to protect any private property that you own, in addition to yourself or another individual. This means that if someone illegally enters your front porch or backyard, you can use deadly force against them without retreating first. More specifically, a person does not have a duty to retreat:
(1) From a dwelling, residence, or vehicle where the person is not unlawfully entering or unlawfully remaining;
(2) From private property that is owned or leased by such individual; or
(3) If the person is in any other location such person has the right to be.
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Posted on 6/30/20 at 11:53 am to TS1926
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So you ultimately agree with what the couple did but had issues with their gun safety?
Ask him if he would let them know about it with his finger on the trigger while pointing it at them. Go ahead, ask him
Posted on 6/30/20 at 11:55 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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Apparently they had the go ahead to mow down the entire group where they stood
If someone loaded their gun, as Mark McCloskey states, and then made a threatening comment, as McCloskey states, he could’ve shot the person and been legally justified.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 11:55 am to TS1926
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Thank you for the answer.
You will always get an answer from me. I enjoy open discussion. Even if it’s with AggieHank and Tboy
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you ultimately agree with what the couple did but had issues with their gun safety?
Absolutely. I said that in my first post.
They legally did nothing wrong, but they’re ignorant dangerous gun owners. In 2020 there’s no excuse for that. You can learn basic rudimentary gun safety from Google and YouTube . And if you own a gun you should absolutely understand how dangerous of a tool it can be and how to properly use and care for it.
These two numbnuts were pointing guns at each other and others with their finger on the trigger.
This post was edited on 6/30/20 at 11:58 am
Posted on 6/30/20 at 11:56 am to the808bass
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If someone loaded their gun, as Mark McCloskey states, and then made a threatening comment, as McCloskey states, he could’ve shot the person and been legally justified.
I didn’t see that anywhere. I saw where someone showed 2 magazines
Posted on 6/30/20 at 11:56 am to Breesus
quote:Jesus Christ with a popsicle. Where the HELL did I say that?
A group of rabid lunatics belonging to an organization that preaches destruction and violence based on skin color tears down a private property gate and begins to storm the property and you think no one should have been worried about them or stopped them because of the social repercussions?
I simply said that they should have been AWARE of the repercussion and that they therefore clearly were WILLING to ACCEPT those repercussions.
Illiteracy makes me sad.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 11:56 am to AggieHank86
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Refusal to do so, on the other hand .....
Have you added any value to the board today Hank? Keep trying, you will eventually make it... I believe in you buddy...
Posted on 6/30/20 at 11:57 am to AggieHank86
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Illiteracy makes me sad.
Not yet, keep trying buddy, you can do it...
Posted on 6/30/20 at 11:57 am to AggieHank86
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A desire to gather relevant facts does NOT make one a moron.
AggieHank, it's been clearly established that this is "private property." As the folks on this board have clearly demonstrated, once someone is unlawfully on private property, regardless of whether you own the property or not, you're entitled to shoot them.
Kind of like if you were walking down the street and saw someone breaking into a random furniture store. That's someone else's private property. But you're free to shoot them according to the posts here.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 11:58 am to upgrayedd
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I am alarmed at the events that occurred over the weekend, where peaceful protesters
Peaceful protesters who destroyed a gate to enter onto posted private property.
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.....were met by guns and a violent assault,” Gardner said.
Say huh? Violent Assault? Did I miss something?
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“We must protect the right to peacefully protest, and any attempt to chill it through intimidation
Sorry but this is absolutely hilarious in so many ways you can’t deny. Chilling a “peaceful” protest... that broke through a locked gate to go “intimidate” another individual. And also “intimidated” private property owners while the “peaceful” protesters were trespassing.
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or threat of deadly force will not be tolerated.”
Insert Castle Law here.
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