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re: Some Louisiana lawmakers backing out of NDAs as questions arise over data centers & deals
Posted on 8/2/26 at 12:24 pm to SoFla Tideroller
Posted on 8/2/26 at 12:24 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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I bet you didn't raise a peep when Pfizer, et al weren't required to disclose their info on the Chinese Flu shot.
The implication is that secrecy in government is acceptable depending on who is keeping the secret. Is that your position?
I wasn’t posting during covid.
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Posted on 8/2/26 at 12:44 pm to TrueTiger
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I don't approve of them telling businesses to forget about expanding into the state because its leaders refuse to engage in standard discussions under an NDA.
I'll bite.
What's a good example of something that has to be secret and undisclosed to the tax payers, or else we wouldn't get these awesome datacenters? Legislators don't need to know any secret sauce about how AI works or how the internal tech is configured.
This post was edited on 8/2/26 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 8/2/26 at 12:56 pm to dafif
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However, do you sign them as a member of the government?
No sir. I am not defending backdoor deals in any way. Just saying they happen every day.
More to your point, it was stated in this thread previously that subpoenas can get around NDAs for you. NDAs protect IP, Not agreements that affect the public, or tax dollars.
Or…..Start filling out FOIA forms. I have filled these out as well, FTR.
Posted on 8/2/26 at 12:59 pm to tigrewoulds21
They aren’t secret for long once there is a meeting. All it really is keeping who is buying and investing until a deal is in place. So if tax payers pay attention there would be a parish council meeting where they approve these things. Almost no incentive can be given without a public meeting.
Posted on 8/2/26 at 1:09 pm to ibldprplgld
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This is not unique to Landry or Louisiana. Common practice among companies to protect their IP and the NDA allows lawmakers to be more involved and informed earlier in the process of these prospective projects.
Elected officials should not be allowed to enter into NDAs if government money is going to be spent or not collected (ie tax credits) on the deal.
The problem is if LA would have such a rule, TX would not and business would just go to TX.
It’s like taxpayer money going to professional sports teams. If you say your city / state won’t pay it, it’s not like they won’t get the money. They will just get it from some other city / state.
Posted on 8/2/26 at 1:27 pm to Big4SALTbro
Data centers don’t operate autonomously or in a vacuum. They spur growth in an entire ecosystem (excepting bitcoin miners)
Economic Development is serious business and extremely competitive. Never kid yourself about how these projects get completed or how secretive they are.
Economic Development is serious business and extremely competitive. Never kid yourself about how these projects get completed or how secretive they are.
Posted on 8/2/26 at 1:28 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Elected officials should not be allowed to enter into NDAs if government money is going to be spent or not collected (ie tax credits) on the deal.
I would not care the NDAS only covered propriety info. No one would object to that. But that is already covered by public records law exemptions.
I care about the deal. Landry et al are using blanket NDAs at the beginning so anything discussed is secret. That's too broad. Citizens should know the terms of the deal before it is finalized.
To do otherwise is to invite a bad deal at best and/or corruption at worst.
Now to some degree, the size of the Meta center is warping discussion. And as data centers become more common general expectations will be set just like they mostly are for O&G and chemical plants. So some of this will settle down over time.
Posted on 8/2/26 at 1:48 pm to BigJim
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I would not care the NDAS only covered propriety info. No one would object to that. But that is already covered by public records law exemptions.
Absolutely
But how much propriety info / IP is being discussed with politicians?
Posted on 8/2/26 at 2:10 pm to 4cubbies
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Politicians certainly are.
Feel free to provide an example.
Posted on 8/2/26 at 2:19 pm to Indefatigable
Jay Morris secretly sold 300 acres of his land to Entergy. He said he couldn’t disclose it due to the NDA he signed. I already posted about it in this thread.
Posted on 8/2/26 at 3:49 pm to 4cubbies
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Jay Morris secretly sold 300 acres of his land to Entergy. He said he couldn’t disclose it due to the NDA he signed. I already posted about it in this thread.
There should be some ethics rules about this type of thing; however, if a data center wants to come in and buy properties under various entities to keep plans quiet they should be able to that without people gouging them because they know what is coming and how essential their property is to the overall plan. I’m assuming that is a major factor in the NDAs.
Posted on 8/2/26 at 5:48 pm to Screaming Viking
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it was stated in this thread previously that subpoenas can get around NDAs for you
Yeah - that is not me amd it is not correct but I'm curious how an FOIA woukd be responded to
Posted on 8/9/26 at 7:52 am to 4cubbies
Anytime someone is asked to sign a NDA, it ought to raise a flag but in the course of typical business, it’s often required to sign to protect proprietary info or details that are deemed to be confidential. Under these circumstances they make sense.
When it’s being done by a government, there’s another level of scepticism that comes into play. When our representatives are signing on our behalf, we have a right to know what’s going on. At least tell us what type of info is NOT being disclosed
When it’s being done by a government, there’s another level of scepticism that comes into play. When our representatives are signing on our behalf, we have a right to know what’s going on. At least tell us what type of info is NOT being disclosed
Posted on 8/9/26 at 8:46 am to 4cubbies
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300 acres
I can’t imagine being upset about such a paltry amount of land being sold.
Posted on 8/9/26 at 8:50 am to cadillacattack
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Data centers don’t operate autonomously or in a vacuum. They spur growth in an entire ecosystem (excepting bitcoin miners) Economic Development is serious business and extremely competitive. Never kid yourself about how these projects get completed or how secretive they are.
I make my paycheck by being very good at talking to economic development. These data centers are a massive boondoggle as far as incentives. They will never hit the job numbers they say. The property tax would be enormous but if you have an abatement it is probably going to be well longer than the useful life. It’s a problem because we clearly don’t want to lose the ai war to China but we should be putting them in our most isolated areas.
They are also causing it to be a massive bitch for those creating jobs or at least retaining jobs because of their tactics and how pissed people are at their reps.
Posted on 8/9/26 at 8:51 am to 4cubbies
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Jay Morris secretly sold 300 acres of his land to Entergy. He said he couldn’t disclose it due to the NDA he signed.
So he signed that NDA as a private citizen selling his privately owned property?
Posted on 8/9/26 at 8:53 am to SlidellCajun
quote:the info not being disclosed is usually jobs, investment and the location they are targeting to buy. The reason being competitive advantage of rivals not knowing.
When it’s being done by a government, there’s another level of scepticism that comes into play. When our representatives are signing on our behalf, we have a right to know what’s going on. At least tell us what type of info is NOT being disclosed
All of those things are of course revealed at the meetings where any actual incentives will be approved.
Posted on 8/9/26 at 11:48 am to ragincajun03
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So he signed that NDA as a private citizen selling his privately owned property?
He was only aware of the project because of his position. He signed the NDA as an elected official choosing to hide things from his constituents for personal benefit.
Posted on 8/9/26 at 12:14 pm to 4cubbies
You think your democrat hero’s weren’t and aren’t doing the exact same thing? Why weren’t you worried about it when they were in charge? Your hero cape wearing facade is wearing very thin. I think your city has a tremendous amount of fraud that’s been going on for decades for you to deal with instead of your hatred for everything Jeff Landry. You really do need to do some self reflection about your goals. You seem to be very one sided politically instead of calling out ALL corruption.
Posted on 8/9/26 at 12:22 pm to 4cubbies
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He was only aware of the project because of his position. He signed the NDA as an elected official choosing to hide things from his constituents for personal benefit.
Reeks of jealousy of someone who has never dealt with land sales, right of ways, easements, nor NDAs revolving around potential projects years ahead of time. I’d be willing to bet several non politically connected people surrounding him have similar NDAs they have signed as well.
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