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So when does life start to you guy and girls?
Posted on 6/25/22 at 9:57 am
Posted on 6/25/22 at 9:57 am
On this abortion issue it's a big debate on when life starts.
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Posted on 6/25/22 at 9:57 am to boweswi05
They don’t care. It’s the responsibility they don’t like.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 9:58 am to boweswi05
I don't know.
That should be the line, but it's THE question in this whole debate. It's also in part science and in part moral, so it's never going to be 100% clear.
That should be the line, but it's THE question in this whole debate. It's also in part science and in part moral, so it's never going to be 100% clear.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 9:59 am to boweswi05
Technically life begins at conception. Once the sperm penetrates the cell wall of the egg and cell division begins the unique DNA of new life has been established.
This post was edited on 6/25/22 at 10:04 am
Posted on 6/25/22 at 9:59 am to boweswi05
Technically it's conception.
That's science.
Just because something can't exist outside the womb or the egg doesn't mean it's not alive.
That's science.
Just because something can't exist outside the womb or the egg doesn't mean it's not alive.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 10:00 am to Bass Tiger
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Technically life begins at conception.
That's not a universal statement across science, religion, or morality.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 10:01 am to boweswi05
Whichever x or y chromosome crosses the finish line first.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 10:02 am to boweswi05
Heartbeat (~8 weeks) is where I think the line should be drawn, but conception/implantation is where life begins IMO.
I say heartbeat as a recently new father who previously had a pregnancy without a heartbeat and we were totally and completely devastated with our loss, but took solace that the baby could have never lived had we carried it out.
I say heartbeat as a recently new father who previously had a pregnancy without a heartbeat and we were totally and completely devastated with our loss, but took solace that the baby could have never lived had we carried it out.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 10:02 am to SouthEasternKaiju
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Technically it's conception.
That's science.
Just because something can't exist outside the womb or the egg doesn't mean it's not alive.
The whole unique DNA thing should scientifically indicate proof of life at conception.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 10:02 am to boweswi05
I asked someone this. I said s month ago you were worried about the kids in the school shooting. So between contraception and elementary school they must switch gears
Posted on 6/25/22 at 10:04 am to boweswi05
Conception.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 10:05 am to boweswi05
There’s no perfect answer.
It’s not clear what asking the question with no context would achieve by being answered.
It’s not clear what asking the question with no context would achieve by being answered.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 10:07 am to boweswi05
Conception.
As a matter of science.
It’s the beginning of the process that is not complete until death. Whether at 80 yrs old or 8 wks.
We permit exceptions to the termination of life. Ex Self Defense. So I’m ok with legal exceptions to an abortion ban. Or even laws permitting the procedure from an objective legal standpoint (I have some very hard line values opposing it though).
I just think if the law were honest about what we are talking about here (the taking of human life) we would exercise more discretion about the point in fetal development at which society is willing to tolerate it, and under what circumstances.
As a matter of science.
It’s the beginning of the process that is not complete until death. Whether at 80 yrs old or 8 wks.
We permit exceptions to the termination of life. Ex Self Defense. So I’m ok with legal exceptions to an abortion ban. Or even laws permitting the procedure from an objective legal standpoint (I have some very hard line values opposing it though).
I just think if the law were honest about what we are talking about here (the taking of human life) we would exercise more discretion about the point in fetal development at which society is willing to tolerate it, and under what circumstances.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 10:09 am to SlowFlowPro
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Technically life begins at conception.
That's not a universal statement across science, religion, or morality
Crazy isn’t it? Most biologists would agree when a cell divides it’s alive.
I think most Groomers/Marxists don’t believe life begins until the subject has been sufficiently indoctrinated through their Marxist controlled educational system….lol! Most universities are now nothing more than woke Marxist finishing schools.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 10:09 am to boweswi05
IMO, unique life arises with unique genes and biological activity, so basically a newly-fertilized zygote.
Everyone will have an opinion, and all of them will have holes, mine included.
But why does it matter in the abortion context? You are looking for a scientic answer to an inherently philosophical question …
Everyone will have an opinion, and all of them will have holes, mine included.
But why does it matter in the abortion context? You are looking for a scientic answer to an inherently philosophical question …
quote:To answer a question of philosophy, it makes far more sense to look to Descartes than to Darwin.
At what point should an organism vest the negative right not to be killed?
This post was edited on 6/25/22 at 10:18 am
Posted on 6/25/22 at 10:11 am to boweswi05
For me, my own opinion, it is when the heart starts to beat. If we mark time of death for a person when the heart stops beating, to me, life would begin when it starts beating.
It’s not perfect, but it seems logical and reasonable to me, although I know people on both sides will tell me the many ways in which I’m wrong.
It’s not perfect, but it seems logical and reasonable to me, although I know people on both sides will tell me the many ways in which I’m wrong.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 10:14 am to boweswi05
Life starts at conception IMO.
Everyone may not have the same opinion.
Everyone may not have the same opinion.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 10:14 am to boweswi05
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So when does life start to you guy and girls?
Upon moving to Texas.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 10:16 am to ibldprplgld
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For me, my own opinion, it is when the heart starts to beat. If we mark time of death for a person when the heart stops beating, to me, life would begin when it starts beating.
The question should have been worded, “When does human life begin?”
I would still say conception but some want to define human life as a baby that is developed enough to survive outside the womb without extraordinary assistance/care.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 10:16 am to Spelt it rong
I agree with heartbeat. I had 3 misscarriages before I had kids. Once you get a heartbeat, the chance on misscariage goes from 33% down to like less than 1%.
I used to be very pro-chouce until I had kids and saw the heartbeat.
I used to be very pro-chouce until I had kids and saw the heartbeat.
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