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re: So when does life start to you guy and girls?

Posted on 6/25/22 at 5:17 pm to
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14192 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 5:17 pm to
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24 downvotes so far for telling the basic and obvious truth.

Such an enlightened group we have here.
Posted by BigD45
Chambers County, TX
Member since Feb 2007
1151 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 5:41 pm to
Conception… At the end of the day, it’s whatever your state decides.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 5:48 pm to
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That's not a universal statement across science, religion, or morality.
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I challenge anybody on this forum to find an example of a carbon-based cell that can not only replicate but has the blueprint to create different cells for different functions as it grows into a complex organism that is NOT considered life in the field of biology.

you focus on the science (and there I agree with you 100%), but the first post also discusses religion and morality. I would add “philosophy.” None of those three fields share the unanimity found in science.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 5:50 pm to
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If something is in the process of growing then it’s alive. Dead things don’t grow.
crystals, as just one of many examples.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56507 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 7:38 pm to
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24 downvotes so far for telling the basic and obvious truth.


Because it’s objectively wrong.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21765 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 8:02 pm to
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you focus on the science


Because that’s the part that was false. “I can eat a hamburger and an aircraft carrier” isn’t a valid statement just because I’m able to eat a hamburger.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21765 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 8:08 pm to
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crystals, as just one of many examples.


Crystals don’t “grow” in that sense. They are not self replicating.
Posted by Gunny Hartman
Member since Jan 2021
415 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 8:09 pm to
When sperm hits egg and the cells start dividing.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 10:12 pm to
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Because that’s the part that was false. “I can eat a hamburger and an aircraft carrier” isn’t a valid statement just because I’m able to eat a hamburger.
You seem to have overlooked that he used the conjunction “or,” not “and.”
This post was edited on 6/25/22 at 10:14 pm
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21765 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 10:20 pm to
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You seem to have overlooked that he used the conjunction “or,” not “and.”



Because "or" would mean something completely different if I used it in my statement. "And" in my statement is explicitly inclusive, just like "or" in his statement was explicitly inclusive.

This is a dumbass nit to try to pick, even for you.
Posted by ChexMix
Taste the Deliciousness
Member since Apr 2014
24972 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 10:22 pm to
Heartbeat
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 10:27 pm to
His original point was based upon conjunction “or.” You attempted to refute his point, using the conjunction “and.”

Pointing out your duplicity is not “nitpicking.” You completely changed the premise. Or attempted to do so, anyway.
This post was edited on 6/25/22 at 10:28 pm
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21765 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 10:30 pm to
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His original point was based upon conjunction “or.” You attempted to refute his point, using the conjunction “and.”


Because it was a completely different sentence, you dishonest dumbfrick.

He made the claim about science, he was wrong, end of story.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50494 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 10:31 pm to
Life begins at conception. For every species on the planet.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
27332 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 10:46 pm to
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. If we mark time of death for a person when the heart stops beating, to me, life would begin when it starts beating.

So we can kill someone on a bypass machine when we stop their heart? Heart isn't beating. It will, but not for that time period during surgery.

A fetal heart will beat if given a chance.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
27332 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 10:47 pm to
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Heartbeat


Wrong.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
27332 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 10:49 pm to
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If something is in the process of growing then it’s alive. Dead things don’t grow.
crystals, as just one of many examples.



Metabolic activity.
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
29862 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 11:05 pm to
One thing that I know for absolute certain a baby that is full term being the victim of an abortion/murder is about the most disgusting thing I have ever heard in my life. I am all for contraceptives, the morning after pill and was even ok with very early abortion……. Finding out states legally permit abortion at full term really turned me on this. No problem at all with reversing Roe vs Wade now.
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