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re: So what happens if the next president decides to declare a national emergency on guns?
Posted on 2/14/19 at 6:50 pm to DavidTheGnome
Posted on 2/14/19 at 6:50 pm to DavidTheGnome
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Posted on 2/14/19 at 6:57 pm to DavidTheGnome
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Y’all will be thinking crap how could this happen.
Nooo. That's NOT what most gun owners will be thinking.
Posted on 2/14/19 at 6:57 pm to DavidTheGnome
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So what happens if the next president decides to declare a national emergency on guns?
What does an "emergency on guns” even mean? Trump isn't banning lawful things, he's redirecting money to build lawful things.
Posted on 2/14/19 at 7:00 pm to DavidTheGnome
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So what happens if the next president decides to declare a national emergency on guns?
The left is clamoring for criminal justice reform...you think they're gonna make it easier to toss inner city folk in jail?
Posted on 2/14/19 at 7:04 pm to DavidTheGnome
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So what happens if the next president decides to declare a national emergency on guns?
I'd suspect it would spell the end of the democrat party...
Posted on 2/14/19 at 7:05 pm to DavidTheGnome
Let him or her do it. I dare them to do so. I challenge them to skin that smokewagon.
Do it for gun confiscation, climate change shutdown of the economy, just do it, Left Lib Future POTUS. I dare you.
Do it for gun confiscation, climate change shutdown of the economy, just do it, Left Lib Future POTUS. I dare you.
Posted on 2/14/19 at 7:05 pm to DavidTheGnome
quote:Believe it or not, the National Emergencies Act of 1976 was an initial effort to CURTAIL presidential power to declare and maintain states of "emergency." There was near-consensus that Presidents had been abusing that power.
We don’t live in a dictatorship, if the president can’t get it through Congress then tough shite it just doesn’t get done.
Congress needs to take a hard look at the NEA as it now exists and (IMHO) tighten the restrictions upon presidential power.
How?
For a start, the power to declare an "Emergency" might be limited to specific short-term scenarios (e.g. foreign attack) that CANNOT be addressed by Congressional action. As an example, the sale of "conflict" diamonds from Sierra Leone is NOT an "emergency," despite Bush-43's declaration to the contrary. If we have a problem with those sales, Congress can pass legislation.
Presidential declarations might be limited to VERY short term periods, absent legislative approval ... rather like a judicial Temporary Restraining Order (e.g. 14 day limit). If it is an ACTUAL "emergency," Congress can get the lead out. IF they do not do so, it probably was not ACTUALLY an "emergency."
Declarations might be subject to an absolute limit on length of time during which they can have effect (e.g. 60- or 90-day limits).
The very idea of using (definitionally short-term) "emergency" powers to implement PERMANENT solutions (whether a border wall or some equally-crazy gun control measure) is antithetical to the concept of Congressional oversight of the Executive branch.
OP, you should not have used guns as your example, for a variety of reasons. First, Second Amendment. Second, the mere mention of "guns" means that the thread will devolve into the usual gun control debate, rather than an objective discussion about the need for revision of the National Emergencies Act.
This post was edited on 2/14/19 at 7:11 pm
Posted on 2/14/19 at 7:08 pm to DavidTheGnome
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So what happens if the next president decides to declare a national emergency on guns?
Pence won’t do that.
Posted on 2/14/19 at 7:20 pm to Clames
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To do what about guns? No emergency declaration is going to upend an individual civil right.
There were 40,000 gun-related deaths just last year; over a half a million since 2001. There have been less than 8,000 homicides caused by illegal immigrants since 2001.
I’m not for an emergency declaration related to firearms, but it’s not outside the realm of the possible that an overzealous president could attempt additional restrictions (guns are restricted already, so it’s not unconstitutional to do so) via a declaration.
Posted on 2/14/19 at 7:26 pm to AggieHank86
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OP, you should not have used guns as your example,
Fair enough, I was going off what Nancy said. Use climate change instead. No constitutional constraints there, so what if the president pushes through any agenda they want due to the national emergency as it relates to climate change.
Posted on 2/14/19 at 7:31 pm to DavidTheGnome
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The president circumventing congress to get his way. Muh small government amirite?
Doesn’t get much smaller than one man circumventing 535.
Posted on 2/14/19 at 7:31 pm to DavidTheGnome
From my cold, dead hands...
Posted on 2/14/19 at 7:32 pm to DavidTheGnome
Next president? Next national emergency is going to put everyone left of Ann coulter on a Norwegian island.
Posted on 2/14/19 at 7:34 pm to DavidTheGnome
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So what happens if the next president decides to declare a national emergency on guns?
Posted on 2/14/19 at 7:37 pm to DavidTheGnome
Why would the next president start a civil war ? Go through the election process to start a civil war and loose all your power .
Posted on 2/14/19 at 7:40 pm to BFIV
Constitution didn't do much to prevent the 4th from being infringed, conversely most pro 2A dont seem to care as much about that one
Posted on 2/14/19 at 8:04 pm to DavidTheGnome
Thanks to Nancy telling Americans that if they vote for a democrat they will come for our guns, the next few Presidents will be republican. Don’t worry your liberal little head about what ifs
Posted on 2/14/19 at 8:09 pm to BornAndRaised_LA
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There were 40,000 gun-related deaths just last year
30,000 of them were suicides. frick off, degenerate, with your fake news talking points.
Posted on 2/14/19 at 8:11 pm to DavidTheGnome
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I just have a problem with opening Pandora’s box with this national emergency crap
As of January 2019, 58 national emergencies had been declared since the Act was enacted in 1976, with 31 of them being renewed annually
Why do people keep thinking this is something new that will set a precedent?
Posted on 2/14/19 at 8:11 pm to whowat
Damn, you seem like a scholar. Nerve touched?
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