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re: So what, exactly, is the problem with real federal spending cuts?

Posted on 5/20/25 at 3:09 pm to
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
131268 posts
Posted on 5/20/25 at 3:09 pm to
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So what, exactly, is the problem with real federal spending cuts?
The problem is we are not going to get there this session because your "2 friends from Kentucky" don't have the moxy to get it done. What they can get done is screwing the tax cut side of the arrangement.
Posted by Ten Bears
Florida
Member since Oct 2018
4254 posts
Posted on 5/20/25 at 3:10 pm to
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but the reality is we have to deal with the morons in the country who cannot handle abrupt change.


For crying out loud, a work requirement for Medicaid and eliminating the green new deal spending isn’t “abrupt change.”

If Trump can’t get behind those 2 very simple things, it tells you all you need to know.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
58502 posts
Posted on 5/20/25 at 3:13 pm to
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For crying out loud, a work requirement for Medicaid and eliminating the green new deal spending isn’t “abrupt change.”

If Trump can’t get behind those 2 very simple things, it tells you all you need to know.


What are you talking about? Those 2 things are in this bill that Trump is openly supporting.
Posted by Figgy
CenCal
Member since May 2020
8938 posts
Posted on 5/20/25 at 3:14 pm to
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Glad yo see you support this bill.


I support cuts. I support a surplus. I support paying down our deficit to save the future of the country. Give me that and you'll have my support. Other than that you'll have my begrudging acceptance of the process, its results, and I'll deal with it. Meanwhile the deficit gets larger by the day and I definitely do not support that.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
58502 posts
Posted on 5/20/25 at 3:15 pm to
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I support cuts. I support a surplus. I support paying down our deficit to save the future of the country. Give me that and you'll have my support. Other than that you'll have my begrudging acceptance of the process, its results, and I'll deal with it. Meanwhile the deficit gets larger by the day and I definitely do not support that.


Hey I don't like it either, but we were never going to be able to cut everything immediately. Libertarians always lose because they cannot accept this reality.
This post was edited on 5/20/25 at 3:16 pm
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
20853 posts
Posted on 5/20/25 at 3:17 pm to
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The problem is we are not going to get there this session because your "2 friends from Kentucky" don't have the moxy to get it done. What they can get done is screwing the tax cut side of the arrangement.

Would Trump have the requisite moxy?
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
58502 posts
Posted on 5/20/25 at 3:21 pm to
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The problem is we are not going to get there this session because your "2 friends from Kentucky" don't have the moxy to get it done. What they can get done is screwing the tax cut side of the arrangement.



Exactly. The GOP reps in DC who are opposing this bill will be why nothing happens and they don't get anything they want. Not everyone else. Them.
This post was edited on 5/20/25 at 3:21 pm
Posted by Warfox
B.R. Native (now in MA)
Member since Apr 2017
3576 posts
Posted on 5/20/25 at 3:56 pm to
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It's now or never. The window is here for the next two years to actually shrink the govt and reduce the deficit. If we don't, we're fricked as a country. It's debt spiral hyperinflation soon. We're reaching debt as a percentage of gdp red line. We'll need to learn Mandarin. besset / trump beating the shite out of our worthless Republican Congress is the only hope.


China’s economy ain’t in much better shape, and economic depression or collapse would reverberate to China as well.

We would enter a worldwide Depression.

If we don’t fix this starting this term I agree - we are in a world of shite.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
87710 posts
Posted on 5/20/25 at 3:59 pm to
Nothing. Why dont those 2 losers from KY ever get what they want in a bill

They are the real life Ron Paul sitting in a room meme
Posted by mudshuvl05
Member since Nov 2023
1769 posts
Posted on 5/20/25 at 4:01 pm to
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You are so triggered
Wanting to get out of 37 trillion in debt, making massive spending cuts, and slashing the size of our bloated corpse of a federal government means someone is, "triggered"?

Big brain Brad over here with the hot tips and tricks.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
131268 posts
Posted on 5/20/25 at 4:18 pm to
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Would Trump have the requisite moxy?
100%

If Congress was willing to do its job? Absolutely. It's the Art of the Deal.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
120440 posts
Posted on 5/20/25 at 6:04 pm to
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Wouldn't that be a reduction in spending of about $300B? Yes, that would be a substantial, immediate hit to the economy.


Lol. Enjoy the apocalypse.
Posted by RandRules
Member since Mar 2025
104 posts
Posted on 5/20/25 at 6:34 pm to
The fact that the bill does nothing to address DOGE’s findings of fraudulent/wasteful spending (including USAID) leaves me with a really bad taste in my mouth. If I were a congressman, i would vote against it too.

Like others have said, i just wish the media would call out exactly which representatives were for more/greater spending and paint them as the bad guys, rather than the ones who are fiscally prudent
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
68981 posts
Posted on 5/20/25 at 6:37 pm to
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You are so triggered that you can't capitalize the slogan. That's like typing god.


Glad a slogan is what’s important to you as the government recklessly spends our money year over year.
Posted by N.O. via West-Cal
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2004
7561 posts
Posted on 5/20/25 at 7:44 pm to
Running massive budget deficits is one of the few issues that enjoys broad bipartisan support.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
79637 posts
Posted on 5/20/25 at 7:53 pm to
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Massie is getting roasted by MAGA for wanting real spending cuts, so not every one of them



What has Massie actually proposed?


I don’t believe he’s revealed any grand plan on cutting spending. Just that we should.


He liked doge. But that’s not him doing anything. Just agreeing we should cut some stuff.


Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
11907 posts
Posted on 5/20/25 at 9:07 pm to
SloFloProblematist…
Posted by Branson
Member since Dec 2023
94 posts
Posted on 5/20/25 at 9:16 pm to
It must be the weather tonight but I just upvoted every one of SFP posts. I actually agree with him on this and he is not being his condescending self.
Posted by BennyAndTheInkJets
Middle of a layover
Member since Nov 2010
5753 posts
Posted on 5/20/25 at 11:15 pm to
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How are we ever going to make America great again if we're running $1.5T deficits annually on our $35T debt? Or, hell, even $1T annual deficits.

I’ll answer the question from my other thread.

Spending cuts are actually great.

But all parts of government can’t have it. And this bill has absolutely ZERO spending cuts.
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
3903 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 12:32 pm to
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If the republicans were actually fiscally responsible as they’ve claimed for 30 years it would absolutely be simple.


Well that's a different subject. Both parties played a role in getting us here. But all that really matters is doing what's necessary to get out of the hole, and that will be prolonged and painful. In other words, neither our politicians nor the voters will do what's necessary.

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it’s almost a guarantee the house will swing back to the DNC in 2026 meaning it’ll be investigations and impeachments all over again


If the D's do take over again, at least they'll put us out of our misery quicker by re-opening the borders, degrading the military and attacking Russia. Either way, the US dollar is the conduit for our fiscal disfunction now so the decline and fall will be chaotic.
This post was edited on 5/21/25 at 12:37 pm
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