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So what comes out of last nights speech?
Posted on 7/17/26 at 8:51 am
Posted on 7/17/26 at 8:51 am
What concrete actions happen as a result of the documents and speech?
Below are some possibilities.
1) SAVE gets passed - medium chance
2) high level Indictments - less likely
3) Reforms by red states - medium chance
4) Reforms by blue states - no shot
5) Media Reforms - no shot
6) China relationship changed - less likely
7) Intelligence agency reforms - less likely
8) Federal firings - medium chance
Lots of motivations why DJT did what he did last night. Best shot for the populace would be to ram SAVE down the RINOs throats in my opinion and that seems like a long shot based on how corrupted the senate is.
I am interested on how this indirectly affects Iran. Trump put China on blast last night who is a well known supporter of Iran. If China backs away from Iran in some form or fashion it could lead to finality in that effort.
My tin foil hat opinion is Trump has wanted to go after the 2020 election fraud but he knows he likely can’t do what he’d like to due to corruption. So he is using it as a threat or leverage to assist him in international affairs.
Below are some possibilities.
1) SAVE gets passed - medium chance
2) high level Indictments - less likely
3) Reforms by red states - medium chance
4) Reforms by blue states - no shot
5) Media Reforms - no shot
6) China relationship changed - less likely
7) Intelligence agency reforms - less likely
8) Federal firings - medium chance
Lots of motivations why DJT did what he did last night. Best shot for the populace would be to ram SAVE down the RINOs throats in my opinion and that seems like a long shot based on how corrupted the senate is.
I am interested on how this indirectly affects Iran. Trump put China on blast last night who is a well known supporter of Iran. If China backs away from Iran in some form or fashion it could lead to finality in that effort.
My tin foil hat opinion is Trump has wanted to go after the 2020 election fraud but he knows he likely can’t do what he’d like to due to corruption. So he is using it as a threat or leverage to assist him in international affairs.
This post was edited on 7/17/26 at 8:52 am
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Posted on 7/17/26 at 8:53 am to Yaboylsu63
Until someone goes to jail for election fraud, he is wasting our time.
The American people are tired of waiting. fricking do something about it!
The American people are tired of waiting. fricking do something about it!
Posted on 7/17/26 at 8:54 am to Yaboylsu63
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My tin foil hat opinion is Trump has wanted to go after the 2020 election fraud but he knows he likely can’t do what he’d like to due to corruption.
My theory is that Trump is losing whatever mental competence he has had and he feels it slipping away, so he is perseverating on past failures.
Posted on 7/17/26 at 8:54 am to TBoy
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My theory
...is dumb as usual.
Posted on 7/17/26 at 8:55 am to TBoy
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My theory
Yeah, I trust your theory like a Joe Biden fart.
Posted on 7/17/26 at 8:56 am to TBoy
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My theory is that Trump is losing whatever mental competence he has had
quote:
TBoy
Suddenly an authority on dementia.
Posted on 7/17/26 at 8:58 am to Yaboylsu63
quote:And even then, it will be a watered down crap version that adds way more debt and may include Israel sucking.
1) SAVE gets passed - medium chance
Posted on 7/17/26 at 8:59 am to Yaboylsu63
I think trying to keep suspicion of the election process is important, but it being Trump, making it all about Trump takes the wind out of it.
It's also just a drop in the bucket. Address the lobby gatekeeping on what candidates can even afford to run for most offices. Or why alternative parties are practically forced out of the process. By the time it gets to the actual election, the fix has already been in for some time. The rest... is just theater of corruption. And that corruption isn't going to be fixed at the ballot box.
It's also just a drop in the bucket. Address the lobby gatekeeping on what candidates can even afford to run for most offices. Or why alternative parties are practically forced out of the process. By the time it gets to the actual election, the fix has already been in for some time. The rest... is just theater of corruption. And that corruption isn't going to be fixed at the ballot box.
Posted on 7/17/26 at 9:00 am to TBoy
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My theory is that Trump is losing whatever mental competence he has had and he feels it slipping away,
Pretty sure that ship has sailed.
Posted on 7/17/26 at 9:01 am to WickedTiger
He did do something. He gave a speech, got you halfway riled up and probably distracted you for an hour or so.
Posted on 7/17/26 at 9:08 am to Yaboylsu63
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Trump put China on blast last night who is a well known supporter of Iran. If China backs away from Iran in some form or fashion it could lead to finality in that effort.
This would be nice if that happens.
But we can't forget that when Trump was there he was going beyond playing good cop which can be baffling.
I know you have to be diplomatic when you're there but he gets into weird territory when he's effusively praising Xi (or Mamdani when he met with him) or Kim JU.
Bizarre behavior from an American President to say the least.
I do hope he can lead China away from Iran but I doubt that happens.
Posted on 7/17/26 at 9:10 am to Yaboylsu63
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Trump put China on blast last night
China has lost approximately 17 trillion in investments into their property market in the last few years.
Evergrande closing up shop just illustrated how bad that their housing bubble was.
That market employed 1 in 6 Chinese people. Throw in completed foreign projects (Africa) and those workers are returning home. That number goes to 1 in 5.
A dead market (and it is graveyard dead) means 20% of the country is no longer employed full time (if at all).
Construction was as much as 25% of their GDP.
Lastly, with the US government (Pentagon) investing in the Mountain Pass mine, and the magnet production facility in Texas, the leverage that China once held over us may not be as
noteworthy.
TLDR
China has a frickton of MAJOR issues, and I don’t see them babysitting the Iranian’s as a result.
Posted on 7/17/26 at 9:12 am to Yaboylsu63
Basically, the democrats learned they have a communist sugar daddy that will help them steal elections. It was a great night to be a Democrat-Socialist
Posted on 7/17/26 at 9:12 am to Yaboylsu63
I think President Trump was sending notice to the American people that while we all pretty well knew there might have been a problem, there IS a problem. I think President Trump also sought to put pressure on the House and Senate (and more so the Senate). The vast majority of the American people want "real meaningful reform" now! This also sent a notice to China we know what you did and you will pay a price. Believe me Trump will bodycheck Xi over their involvement in previous election bull shite. 
Posted on 7/17/26 at 9:19 am to Yaboylsu63
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comes out of last nights speech?
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I had such high hopes too. I went in believing it was The Most Important Oval Office Address Since Cuban Missile Crisis
Posted on 7/17/26 at 9:21 am to jimmy the leg
quote:
TLDR
China has a frickton of MAJOR issues, and I don’t see them babysitting the Iranian’s as a result.
This guy seems to support your theory:
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Beijing’s statisticians on Wednesday said the gross domestic product grew 4.3% year-on-year in inflation-adjusted terms in the April through June quarter. China’s economic data are notoriously prone to fiddling for political purposes. And only this March, the Communist Party set a GDP growth target range of 4.5% to 5% for the year, its most pessimistic since the 1990s.
When that target range was announced, this newspaper’s editorial columns observed that it was less a realistic policy goal and more a statement of the highest rate of growth Beijing thought it could plausibly pretend to achieve. Four months later, the party is conceding that even that low target would strain global credulity.
Meanwhile there’s accumulating evidence that the country’s true GDP growth rate may be zero, or that the economy is in outright recession. Retail sales were a bright spot in the latest data, increasing 1% year-on-year in June, but looking across recent months this measure of domestic household consumption may be stuck in neutral. Measures of investment are in free fall: Fixed-asset investment has declined 5.7% year-to-date and real-estate investment is down 18%.
Anecdotal observations also point to a recession. The big one concerns oil. Crude imports in July hit their lowest level in roughly a decade. In theory this could be explained by a drawdown in domestic stockpiles amid continuing disruptions in the Strait of Hormuz, but refinery output also is declining. The problem appears to be demand for energy within China, which is dropping rapidly.
LINK
Posted on 7/17/26 at 9:21 am to Yaboylsu63
quote:
So what comes out of last nights speech?
Would love to see some things happen but unless / until it ever does, just a resumption of how it’s already been going on seemingly forever now - arguments about it.
Posted on 7/17/26 at 9:26 am to WickedTiger
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Yeah, I trust your theory like a Joe Biden fart.
Posted on 7/17/26 at 9:35 am to Great Plains Drifter
The national news media certainly didn't think much of Trump's speech. CBS trashed it the second Trump's speech was over.
This morning Georgie boy and his crew trashed it saying Trump knows he is going to lose the midterms so he is trying to discourage people from voting.
This morning Georgie boy and his crew trashed it saying Trump knows he is going to lose the midterms so he is trying to discourage people from voting.
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