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Dawglovertoo
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re: Let's have a civil discussion about AI music
Posted by Dawglovertoo on 10/23/26 at 12:59 pm to Dawglovertoo
Are you AI music haters going to tell me AI music doesn't meet Merriam-Webster's definition of "music"?
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Merriam-Webster's definition of "music" is "vocal, instrumental, or mechanical sounds having rhythm, melody, or harmony".
Another crazy lefty arrested for threatening to assassinate Trump
Posted by Dawglovertoo on 10/22/26 at 7:39 pm
I just heard on the ABC national news that a female lefty idiot got arrested for threatening to assassinate Trump if he went to the Georgia/Alabama football game.
re: Let's have a civil discussion about AI music
Posted by Dawglovertoo on 10/22/26 at 5:48 pm to Cdawg
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Yeah, ummm... Just delete that one. That's a little too sappy.
Do you like this one?
Coast to Coast
re: Let's have a civil discussion about AI music
Posted by Dawglovertoo on 10/22/26 at 3:49 pm to Cdawg
My brother wanted it to be sappy and emotional.
BTW, Merriam-Webster's definition of "music" is "vocal, instrumental, or mechanical sounds having rhythm, melody, or harmony".
BTW, Merriam-Webster's definition of "music" is "vocal, instrumental, or mechanical sounds having rhythm, melody, or harmony".
re: Let's have a civil discussion about AI music
Posted by Dawglovertoo on 10/22/26 at 3:19 pm to TheTideMustRoll
re: Let's have a civil discussion about AI music
Posted by Dawglovertoo on 10/22/26 at 2:50 pm to TheTideMustRoll
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Of course my statement is ludicrous; it was intended to be ludicrous. But here's something even more ludicrous: you yourself defended my right to make it.
The First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution gives you the right to make your ludicrous statement not me.
re: Post The Best Song You Heard Today
Posted by Dawglovertoo on 10/22/26 at 2:39 pm to St Augustine
re: Let's have a civil discussion about AI music
Posted by Dawglovertoo on 10/22/26 at 2:34 pm to TheTideMustRoll
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Hey Dawglovertoo, write another song!
Now, once you've written it, I will be the songwriter because I told you to write it. So make sure and credit me properly.
Your statement is ludicrous.
After I write the lyrics I do much more than just tell AI to make me a song.
re: Let's have a civil discussion about AI music
Posted by Dawglovertoo on 10/22/26 at 1:55 pm to TheTideMustRoll
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Yes, of course, all of that is music. Let me go ahead and preempt the point you are about to try and make - yes, it was made with synthesizers. But no, making music using a synthesizer or other electronic instrument and having music generated for you by an AI are in no way the same thing.
I'll make my own point.
At the time the synthesizer was first used many musicians did not consider anything using a synthesizer as music.
Eventually those musicians changed their minds and now using a synthesizer is considered music.
The same thing will eventually happen in regards to using AI to make music.
re: Let's have a civil discussion about AI music
Posted by Dawglovertoo on 10/22/26 at 12:41 pm to Dawglovertoo
Is this music?
re: Let's have a civil discussion about AI music
Posted by Dawglovertoo on 10/22/26 at 12:21 pm to Dawglovertoo
Is this music?
re: Let's have a civil discussion about AI music
Posted by Dawglovertoo on 10/22/26 at 12:16 pm to Dawglovertoo
Is this music?
re: Let's have a civil discussion about AI music
Posted by Dawglovertoo on 10/22/26 at 11:40 am to TheTideMustRoll
Do you consider this music?
re: Let's have a civil discussion about AI music
Posted by Dawglovertoo on 10/22/26 at 11:06 am to TheTideMustRoll
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And I already told you that I don't care what Andy Warhol did, which I would consider to be illegitimate anyway. I asked you what you think. Do you think you would be justified in claiming someone else's art as your own simply because you told them to make it?
Apparently you don't know what QED means.
re: Let's have a civil discussion about AI music
Posted by Dawglovertoo on 10/22/26 at 9:59 am to TheTideMustRoll
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You are telling an AI to generate something for you that you cannot create yourself and then claiming the end result as your own product. I asked a question about whether or not you felt you would be justified in doing the exact same thing if a human was doing the creating rather than a machine. How is that irrelevant?
I already provided you with the example of Andy Warhol doing exactly that.
QED
re: Let's have a civil discussion about AI music
Posted by Dawglovertoo on 10/22/26 at 9:55 am to Mizz-SEC
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Im doing this to tell you that not one of these guys would think AI is something that needs to be a part of music, it’s just not. You need to bow out of this and learn a craft.
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He can't. Short Bus thinks he's a musical genius.
My brother doesn't think he's a musical genius. He just thinks he's a musician and has written some good songs that he thinks people would enjoy listening to.
The use of AI music as a tool helps him as a songwriter/musician to inexpensively produce a finished version of his songs without having to rely on the music industry to produce a marketable product.
re: Let's have a civil discussion about AI music
Posted by Dawglovertoo on 10/22/26 at 9:35 am to olddawg26
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This is ridiculous, if you aren’t playing the music along with the songs you actually wrote then it’s not original. I dunno what else to say, I’ve got 3 full length albums on all platforms and I play piano/organ/guitar and backing vocals on a ton of stuff you’ve heard. I’ve been in the studio with Gregg Allman and I’ve recorded right after Ike stubblefield. I’ve jammed with trucks and all. I’ve done a lot.
Im doing this to tell you that not one of these guys would think AI is something that needs to be a part of music, it’s just not. You need to bow out of this and learn a craft.
My brother and I have already learned a craft.
We have made originally designed handmade lost wax casted and fabricated jewelry since 1967.
It doesn't matter what you and all of those other professional musicians think about AI music.
If it sounds like music it's music.
BTW, here's the link to a song my brother wrote the lyrics to called, "A Street Musician's Song".
A Street Musician's Song
re: Let's have a civil discussion about AI music
Posted by Dawglovertoo on 10/22/26 at 9:23 am to TheTideMustRoll
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Please explain how it is irrelevant.
It's obvious how it's irrelevant.
re: Let's have a civil discussion about AI music
Posted by Dawglovertoo on 10/21/26 at 8:42 pm to TheTideMustRoll
Your question is irrelevant to the discussion but I've already answered it several times.
You just don't like my answer.
You just don't like my answer.
re: Let's have a civil discussion about AI music
Posted by Dawglovertoo on 10/21/26 at 8:05 pm to TheTideMustRoll
No matter how many times you ask the question it doesn't change the fact that my brother and I made all of our songs.
Additionally, according to AI, "Philosophically, many creators argue that the song is still "way more yours than not". You curated the idea, engineered the prompts, and decided which AI generation perfectly matched the emotional intent of your words. In this light, you are the director or visionary of the project, even if the "execution" of the music was handled by a machine."
BTW, Have you stopped beating your wife?
That question requires just a "yes" or "no" answer.
Additionally, according to AI, "Philosophically, many creators argue that the song is still "way more yours than not". You curated the idea, engineered the prompts, and decided which AI generation perfectly matched the emotional intent of your words. In this light, you are the director or visionary of the project, even if the "execution" of the music was handled by a machine."
BTW, Have you stopped beating your wife?
That question requires just a "yes" or "no" answer.
re: Let's have a civil discussion about AI music
Posted by Dawglovertoo on 10/21/26 at 6:19 pm to olddawg26
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Furthermore is it morally correct to do that even if the answer is yes?
The answer to those questions will answer if AI music is worth even a second glance
AI music is certainly worth a first glance before you judge it as not being art.
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