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re: So my wife is a big wig HR VP with a Fortune 500 Company ...

Posted on 11/20/18 at 9:24 am to
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162209 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 9:24 am to
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I'm so glad I work for a company that completely ignores this garbage. We even host hunting events and actively support conservative causes.



Same

We're a small/medium sized company but glad I don't work for a publicly traded F500 company
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50375 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 9:25 am to
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So you work for a hate group.
You company is probably already on a list..




The list of best companies to work for.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260171 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 9:27 am to
Life was so much better before HR became such a big deal.
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
29664 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 9:29 am to
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So this begs the question: do we all qualify by posting here?

It certainly sounds like it

absolutely, we are under attack for having views that are not acceptable to the fools
Posted by olemc999
At a blackjack table
Member since Oct 2010
13260 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 9:33 am to
A buddy of mine that works in HR said that they consider people who don’t have social media as suspicious. Did she say anything about this? Just curios.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 9:38 am to
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Isn't TD social media?

Could be but I don't view it as such

quote:

If it counts they have both you and me on all counts

Agree
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123839 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 9:38 am to
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scrooster
quote:

She's the consummate ladder climber but she is no fool. The men she works with adhore her and let me know it often.
ETA: Oooops, I misread that as "abhor"

Good, for her!
This post was edited on 11/20/18 at 9:56 am
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
8609 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 9:52 am to
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Women are definitely capable of violence.


In the oil exploration related company where I worked I was the only female who earned the salary of a professional.

One day I got a call from the company owner to come to one of the other buildings because two women were about to come to blows, and none of the men wanted to intervene.

I could hear them from outside. They were furious. Somehow, I, totally untrained got them calmed down. When I got there they were yelling about which one smelled worse. Yes, neither were from this hemisphere and they were from different continents with different highly spiced cuisines.

Another time, I went abroad to manage a branch before the new manager could get there and had a dicotomy in the women working there. The eastern Europeans got along and the Middle Eastern three got along, even though they were from different countries.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90546 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 9:56 am to
Your wife is about to be fired when she questions the liberal agenda on the basis that she is potentially dangerous
Posted by dakarx
Member since Sep 2018
6824 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 9:58 am to
BTW that checklist of goals in the first post needs to be updated... I've already completed it and am looking for new ways to piss off the lib's.
Posted by MeatCleaverWeaver
Member since Oct 2013
22175 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 9:59 am to
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So my wife is a big wig HR VP with a Fortune 500 Compan


I trust you are on a golf course or in a deer stand one as you post.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 11/20/18 at 10:07 am to
So I used to help lead a company that always threw big parties at SHRM. I am not and never was in an HR function but our company's clients and target market was.

HR is one of the consistently liberal areas of any company.

Oh, by they way SHRM was known for the HR women getting strange while they blew out the conference. That is the other thing HR people are known for.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
37605 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 10:12 am to
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I trust you are on a golf course or in a deer stand one as you post.

No, a bad ankle, knee and hip ended my golf game but I do hunt occasionally ... although our Son supplies most of the venison these days. But I keep myself busy in the yard and in my wood shop.

I retired early thanks to her though. No doubt. I give her full credit.
Posted by scrooster
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Member since Jul 2012
37605 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 10:15 am to
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A buddy of mine that works in HR said that they consider people who don’t have social media as suspicious. Did she say anything about this? Just curios.

Damn good question. I'll ask her when she calls at lunch to fill me in on how it went this morning. That's a damn good question.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94983 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 10:24 am to
This is my shocked face.

No offense to your wife but my experiences dealing with HR people in and out of the office is a lot like this. Overwhelmingly female, not a lot of qualifications, pissed off because they aren’t in a high paying field, and do a lot of backbiting to try and feather their own nests.


In general, HR tends to be a detriment to the organization rather than a benefit because many employees in it have an adversarial relationship with the rank and file.


Frankly, a lot of them seem pissed off that this is where they ended up in life and they take it out on people paid better (and far more skilled) than they are.
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 10:32 am to

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This is nothing more that a justification to discriminate against conservative leaning white males.


To be fair, everyone who dissents against what their company deems acceptable is subject to harsh penalties.

This is why "right to work" laws are tricky. The give the worker "more freedom" only under ideal circumstances. But if you discriminated against beyond reasonable means, then you are in a bad predicament since you have no rights.
Posted by scrooster
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Member since Jul 2012
37605 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 10:44 am to
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This is why "right to work" laws are tricky. The give the worker "more freedom" only under ideal circumstances. But if you discriminated against beyond reasonable means, then you are in a bad predicament since you have no rights.

South Carolina is a Right to Work State but in essence it only applies to non-contractual employees. Contracted employees, those working for a company but under contract with another company while doing so ... they are dealt with differently although they fall under the auspices of the main company's HR in most disputes.

Contracted employees, those who agree to certain work standards by signing a contract with the main employer, they have a lot more power and their disputes are sometimes elevated to a State or Federal EO board for arbitration depending upon how much Federal money said company receives from Washington. Most F500 companies have massive billion dollar contracts with our Federal government so that trumps any state laws in most cases.

And disputes are numerous when you're talking 40k+ employees in 33 states because there are a shite ton of lawyers out there these days catering to any and all grievances any employee might feel butthurt about.

Which raises another issue.

A lot of blame gets laid on HR in this thread but it is the labor law attorneys who are really pushing a lot of problems into our workforce in this country and they do not receive enough of the blame for how destructive they have become.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
37605 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 10:44 am to
quote:

This is why "right to work" laws are tricky. The give the worker "more freedom" only under ideal circumstances. But if you discriminated against beyond reasonable means, then you are in a bad predicament since you have no rights.

South Carolina is a Right to Work State but in essence it only applies to non-contractual employees. Contracted employees, those working for a company but under contract with another company while doing so ... they are dealt with differently although they fall under the auspices of the main company's HR in most disputes.

Contracted employees, those who agree to certain work standards by signing a contract with the main employer, they have a lot more power and their disputes are sometimes elevated to a State or Federal EO board for arbitration depending upon how much Federal money said company receives from Washington. Most F500 companies have massive billion dollar contracts with our Federal government so that trumps any state laws in most cases.

And disputes are numerous when you're talking 40k+ employees in 33 states because there are a shite ton of lawyers out there these days catering to any and all grievances any employee might feel butthurt about.

Which raises another issue.

A lot of blame gets laid on HR in this thread but it is the labor law attorneys who are really pushing a lot of problems into our workforce in this country and they do not receive enough of the blame for how destructive they have become.
Posted by NOLAManBlog
The Big Nasty
Member since Dec 2012
1154 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 10:50 am to
This is a very informative thread warning us of Fortune 500 mass hysteria but we still need pics of all women involved
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 10:51 am to
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BTW, HR, as it is taught and a relatively Conservative and renowned business school like we have at SC ... it's a good degree. We just need more good kids buying in and then resisting the SHRM mantra.





Thanks for the detailed post.

I think I know why its become this bad, feel free to comment.

1) the #metoo movement
Its probably going to die out due to the Kavanaugh interviews and the faltering leadership. However it has emboldened certain women by giving them a large amount of power outside if the rule of law.

2) conservative job choices
I realize it has great opportunities, but it may not resonate very well with some conservatives. Liberals are more apt to do jobs like HR because of the social interaction element. Add to the fact that most women lean more liberal, and you end up with unequal distribution.
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