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re: Serious question for liberals. This is not bait!

Posted on 8/12/20 at 8:18 am to
Posted by TizzyT4theUofA
This side of eternity
Member since Jun 2016
10051 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 8:18 am to
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If you don’t know, then you don’t want to know.


Ok, so you can’t prove it.
Posted by TizzyT4theUofA
This side of eternity
Member since Jun 2016
10051 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 8:20 am to
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I think we can provide healthcare at the same time as weeding out the bad actors.


You’ve obviously never worked for the government.
Posted by Smedium27
Bestbank
Member since Aug 2010
3517 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 8:21 am to
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Religion is central to one's viewpoint of the world.


Not for everyone. It is a personal opinion to makes you feel comfortable or un afraid. Capitalism created the different types of religions. Christianity being the popular one in America

IMO
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52394 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 8:21 am to
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Imagine a world with no morals or ethics. That's where the left is headed.


"Looting is a form of reparations. Its okay, these places have insurance."
Posted by Pintail
Member since Nov 2011
10430 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 8:24 am to
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So you don’t think it’s valid that a person would cast their vote simply based on the President being a racist, bigot, liar, etc, etc, etc, etc


Yep this is why I’m not voting for Biden.





Well one of the many reasons.
I would love to know where “Trump is racist“ comes from.
Posted by victoire sécurisé
Member since Nov 2012
4821 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 8:24 am to
Humane immigration policy is important for me.

I find Trump’s asylum policies to be antithetical to being the “City on a Hill” that Reagan used to espouse.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78364 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 8:30 am to
So you think Reagan would support open borders, mass illegal immigration, sanctuary cities, full access to health care and all public services for anybody that makes it across the border, etc?
Posted by 2Yutes
BR
Member since Oct 2018
2183 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 8:39 am to
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I’m not arguing for Trump! I’m not a fan of his either.


Fan or not, no sane American is left with a choice. It’s Trump in November or this country morphs into something the next generation will severely regret.
Posted by Friscodog
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2009
4458 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 8:45 am to
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So you don’t think it’s valid that a person would cast their vote simply based on the President being a racist, bigot, liar, etc, etc, etc, etc and how those behaviors shape our social world. You certainly can ignore those things, but I won’t. They matte


Yet you still plan to vote for Biden who has on many occasions made very racist statements.. more so than Trump. And you will not debate this so it shows what a coward you are, because you cannot back it up with facts.
Posted by B4YOU
Member since May 2018
344 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 9:22 am to
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So you think Reagan would support open borders, mass illegal immigration, sanctuary cities, full access to health care and all public services for anybody that makes it across the border, etc?


Show where Biden supports open borders. More people were deported under Obama/Biden than under Trump. Obama/Biden also deported more people than Bush. Humane treatment of immigrants and working with city/states to remove dangerous immigrants is what allowed for such high deportation numbers.

LINK
Posted by Lsupimp
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Member since Nov 2003
78364 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 9:37 am to
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Show where Biden supports open borders.


Lol. You have to be a paid dupe. Or extremely ignorant.
Joe Biden is on record as supporting the following:

Releasing all border crossers into the U.S. interior
Restarting welfare-dependent legal immigration to the U.S.
Basically "FREE" healthcare and welfare to ALL illegal immigrants.
Ending the National Emergency Declaration at the southern border.
Stop construction of the border wall.
Ending a travel ban from foreign counties that sponsor terrorism.
Providing amnesty to 3.5 million DACA-enrolled and DACA-eligible illegal aliens and as many as 22 million total.
Providing federal student loans and free community college to DACA illegal aliens
Cracking down on Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents.
Stopping deportation of illegal criminals in the US.
Expanding chain migration.

I could go on if you want...
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
11969 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 9:39 am to
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If someone is not Christian, then I would not expect them to understand my worldview.


What does "Christian" mean to you?
Can you give me the verse where Christ said, take from those who work and give to those won't?
There are millions of people coming here, many from countries that have universal healthcare. yet you desire a bureaucracy to run healthcare. Trump just enabled veterans to avoid that in order to get good healthcare, and you dims want to nationalize veteran healthcare.
Sucker!
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139808 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 9:40 am to
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Christian obligation to take care of each other.


It’s hard to take this seriously while you support abortion. In fact, it’s impossible.

You are also asking that the gov be the charity.

Start your own charity and you and your liberal friends can end bankruptcy due to medical bills. Stop waiting on mommy gov. She’s fat enough.
This post was edited on 8/12/20 at 9:42 am
Posted by bstew3006
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Member since Dec 2007
12571 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 9:43 am to
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Serious question for liberals. This is not bait!


Another serious Question

Make the case for Biden/Harris....but you can’t mention anything Trump....GO
Posted by longwayfromLA
NYC
Member since Nov 2007
3331 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 9:55 am to
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What is it that you are going to get, specifically government wise, by voting for Biden?

And don’t do the standard ‘get rid of Trump’ chant. We get all of that already.



For many Democrats the answer really, really is Biden has the best chance against Trump that is the God's honest truth.

Personally, I think Biden was the only candidate with a remotely reasonably healthcare policy. Although his plan is sort of dumb too.
Posted by TigerAlum2006
Mid-Atlantic
Member since Aug 2020
185 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 10:07 am to
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You need to get out more.
There are plenty of companies that offer healthcare.
I have never worked for a company that didn't have healthcare.

You wrote “I have never worked for a company that didn’t offer healthcare.” Okay...you want a cookie?

Well, you don’t get a cookie. The only way you get a cookie is if you say, “hmmm, here’s what I think I know...but let me check. Because I may be wrong. And the last thing I want to do is spread falsehoods.” But you didn’t do that. You offered personal (limited) experience. And you were rude to the original poster in an attempt to shut him down. Clearly, you need to read more. Or, like, Google when you don’t actually know something. Or, dare I repeat your smug attack, get out more.

Speaking based on your own limited experience doesn’t make something true. So, what is true here?

Looking at a 2018 Census Bureau report... LINK
1 out of every 11 people (9% or 26+ million) have no form of healthcare.
56% of people have employer sponsored health insurance

We could do some additional
Googling and find out that
11 of the 20 professions with the highest shares of workers who don’t have health insurance are in construction. 50% for roofers, drywall, etc. I mean, how could you know, though, unless you got out more. Or, like, decided to check whether what you thought you knew was true. Nah, it’s easier to be smug on a message board.

At the end of the day, I too care that tens of millions of my fellow Americans don’t have healthcare. And that others who do have it have to worry about losing it or have gaps in coverage when they switch jobs. I see this as a moral failing of our country and those who ignore the needs of their neighbors. And as a true patriot, I will fight for this failing to be corrected.
This post was edited on 8/12/20 at 10:35 am
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
16176 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 10:11 am to
As a diehard liberal, myself.. go carl marks!

I think highly of Biden's promise to increase taxes. He also won me over with his support of BLM.. because I'm white, and I just can't support a presidential candidate who doesn't want to persecute me and my family for being white. Hopefully he'll help create laws that really oppress us white folks.
Posted by hawkeye007
Member since Feb 2010
5844 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 10:12 am to
just like GOP going to vote GOP.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139808 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 10:13 am to
You forgot free healthcare for illegals. We commies love that.
Posted by B4YOU
Member since May 2018
344 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 10:15 am to
Releasing all border crossers into the U.S. interior Source?
Restarting welfare-dependent legal immigration to the U.S. You mean the refugee ceiling? Bush 70-80k, Obama 70-110k, Trump 45-18k, Biden proposal 125k. Trump will hammer Biden on this policy and probably score points. It’s a dumb decision by Biden who will justify it based on Trump’s low numbers.
Basically "FREE" healthcare and welfare to ALL illegal immigrants. Source?
Stop construction of the border wall. I’m ok with that.
Ending a travel ban from foreign counties that sponsor terrorism. When are we adding Russia to this ban?
Providing amnesty to 3.5 million DACA-enrolled I’m ok with this.
Providing federal student loans and free community college to DACA illegal aliens I’m ok with this.
Cracking down on Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents. I’m ok with us not separating families and caging kids.
Stopping deportation of illegal criminals in the US. Source?
Expanding chain migration. Family based migration policies work. Why is this bad?
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