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re: Sentence Reached
Posted on 6/9/26 at 9:30 pm to FATBOY TIGER
Posted on 6/9/26 at 9:30 pm to FATBOY TIGER
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 9:31 pm to SlowFlowPro
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That was never an option.
You think this was justice?
Posted on 6/9/26 at 9:34 pm to uggabugga
Posted on 6/9/26 at 9:36 pm to AlwysATgr
Posted on 6/9/26 at 9:41 pm to AlwysATgr
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You think this was justice?
There's no such thing as "justice" in this life.
No matter what the penalty is, the kid who was killed is still going to be dead. His family is still going to miss him for the rest of their lives and agonize over how things could have gone differently.
There's no way to actually cancel out or pay for what was done and balance the scales (no, not execution either).
As for the sentence, he got the national average for murder. A little more than the national average, actually, with the possibility of a significant amount more if he fails to get parole.
And as stupid and tragic as this whole thing was, it doesn't seem to be any stupider or more tragic or senseless than the vast majority of murders. Pretty typical, in fact. Murderer acts impulsively with no self-restraint. And 17 years old, at that.
So I'm not sure why people keep saying, "It's not enough." It passes pretty much every metric I can think of to use for being an appropriate sentence. The justice system shouldn't work differently for someone just because their case got a lot of media coverage.
Posted on 6/9/26 at 9:44 pm to wackatimesthree
quote:“Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed, for God made man in his own image." -Genesis 9:6
So I'm not sure why people keep saying, "It's not enough." It passes pretty much every metric I can think of to use for being an appropriate sentence.
Posted on 6/9/26 at 9:50 pm to FooManChoo
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“Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed, for God made man in his own image." -Genesis 9:6
Except for Moses. And David. And Paul. And Joshua. And every Israelite soldier in the OT. And Samuel. And Samson. And Jael.
I could probably look up a couple dozen more.
Posted on 6/9/26 at 9:51 pm to wackatimesthree
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Except for Moses. And David. And Paul. And Joshua. And every Israelite soldier in the OT. And Samuel. And Samson. And Jael.
I imagine "shed blood" has a particular meaning that you're ignoring... Also, don't y'all phunk up my thread. I'll be forced to self defense all over both you'uns.
Posted on 6/9/26 at 9:53 pm to SallysHuman
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I imagine "shed blood" has a particular meaning that you're ignoring..
So we ignore the plain meaning of "shed blood" to avoid contradiction?
Posted on 6/9/26 at 9:55 pm to SallysHuman
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I imagine "shed blood" has a particular meaning that you're ignoring
I don't think I'm the one ignoring that the verse cannot be viewed as a proof text the way Foo wants it to be.
It doesn't make special exemptions for soldiers or anybody else. Which means that it obviously cannot be interpreted as a black and white, without nuance, edict.
Posted on 6/9/26 at 9:55 pm to SlowFlowPro
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So we ignore the plain meaning of "shed blood" to avoid contradiction?
SFP... wtf does PLAIN MEANING have to do with OT text? Don't try to squirrelmeister this...
Posted on 6/9/26 at 9:56 pm to wackatimesthree
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I don't think I'm the one ignoring that the verse cannot be viewed as a proof text the way Foo wants it to be.
Foo can fight for himself... but I imagine "shed blood" refers to unjust killing in this instance.
Posted on 6/9/26 at 9:59 pm to wackatimesthree
Posted on 6/9/26 at 10:00 pm to SallysHuman
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SFP
Don't try to squirrelmeister this...
good luck wit dis.Posted on 6/9/26 at 10:02 pm to wackatimesthree
quote:Based on the context of the rest of the Bible, it's speaking of murder. If you murder someone, you forfeit your life, because the person you murdered is made in the image of God, and justice demands your life for theirs.
Except for Moses. And David. And Paul. And Joshua. And every Israelite soldier in the OT. And Samuel. And Samson. And Jael.
I could probably look up a couple dozen more.
Posted on 6/9/26 at 10:02 pm to cajunangelle
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good luck wit dis.
They're about to baffle the thread... it was a good seven pages, I guess.
Posted on 6/9/26 at 10:03 pm to Lizardman2
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Also, just my opinion, he deserve to die.
If opinions are like assholes, then you and I have very similar, perhaps identical, assholes. I just hope that doesn’t make us butt buddies.
Posted on 6/9/26 at 10:04 pm to hogcard1964
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You, of all people should never correct anyone.
Wait what? I have to constantly correct people and their bullshite on here.
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. You're incorrect on a daily basis here.
Like right here. Perfect example.
Posted on 6/9/26 at 10:05 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:While the Bible is unique in the sense that it is the only writing that is God's written and preserved revelation, it's not unique in the sense that it's interpreted like any other writing is: within its own context.
So we ignore the plain meaning of "shed blood" to avoid contradiction?
If there were no other passages that help us understand God's understanding of justice, the "plain meaning" of Genesis 9:6 could be any taking of any life. However, context of the rest of Scripture demands it to be unlawful taking of life (murder).
Posted on 6/9/26 at 10:06 pm to AquaAg84
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This is just one example of why you are an a-hole. The poster asking this question
What question?
This is what I quoted
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I expected the Death Penalty.
A complete sentence. Ends with a period. No question mark. Not a question.
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BTW, I have a hunch that your supposed lawyer arse is lamenting the verdict
See, now I have to correct you twice.
Making hog look ever worse
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