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re: Senate Republican: ‘We can’t afford’ $2,000 tariff checks
Posted on 11/24/25 at 2:15 pm to wackatimesthree
Posted on 11/24/25 at 2:15 pm to wackatimesthree
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Let's just pull up the drawbridge and stay inside the moat.
Idiotic.
Why did we send a billion dollars to Afghanistan a year after our withdrawal? All they needed to do was sell the billions of dollars in equipment we left behind.
Posted on 11/24/25 at 2:19 pm to JellyRoll
It's our money to begin with. .gov doesn't make any.
Posted on 11/24/25 at 2:21 pm to ragincajun03
Agree.
And as a separate matter, why are these things income determined?
Give to all or give to none. The middle class and wealthy pay way more than anyone else already.
And as a separate matter, why are these things income determined?
Give to all or give to none. The middle class and wealthy pay way more than anyone else already.
This post was edited on 11/24/25 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 11/24/25 at 2:29 pm to ragincajun03
The political class saying we can’t afford giving cash to working Americans is the absolute pinnacle of hypocrisy.
If you disagree
If you disagree
Posted on 11/24/25 at 2:31 pm to The Baker
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They can afford billions to israel
Over $300B to Ukraine.
Over $100B of it is "missing".
We spend $100B per year on SNAP.
We spend $67B per year on housing assistant vouchers.
$670M a year for Planned Parenthood.
But yeah, you can't give me any tax money back. Money that I actually worked for.
Now that said, I don't want the shite anyway and I would rather it go towards the national debt, but come on. If you're going to give me some bullshite about "wE CaN't aFFoRd iT" then at least accompany that statement with data about the ridiculous spending in government that leaves us fleeced and flaccid.
Posted on 11/24/25 at 2:49 pm to ragincajun03
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“Look, we can’t afford it.
He ain't wrong.
Posted on 11/24/25 at 2:52 pm to Bamafig
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Neither party will ever pay down the debt.
Yep.
Whatever legal entities succeed the United States will be saddled down with the debt.
Posted on 11/24/25 at 2:55 pm to frogtown
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Nope. It was $660 billion in 2017 and got higher every year and was almost $1 trillion by 2019.
And in 2020, when you remove all COVID dollars, the deficit was $1.02 trillion.
And this year it is $1.75 trillion, and 2026 is projected to be $1.6 trillion.
But I was told in another thread that this will all be fixed by DOGE.
How Trump escaped any accountability for inflation is perhaps the greatest political feat in the history of politics.
Posted on 11/24/25 at 3:04 pm to Ten Bears
Projected by who? the Trump spending bill would add 3 trillion to the debt OVER 10 years. It equaled out to 330 billion a year. The spending hasnt been that low since 2007 and that is before any tariffs are applied to it. You must have got those numbers from the same people that projected the gdp at 1.5% when it came in at 4.2%
Posted on 11/24/25 at 3:12 pm to Indefatigable
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as a separate matter, why are these things income determined?
Give to all or give to none. The middle class and wealthy pay way more than anyone else already.
Because they made a “promise” on tweeter and now have to try to balance out the wealth redistribution vs what has actually been taken in via the tariffs.
So if you make more than about $150k a year, you’re going to get the shaft. More class warfare for votes.
Posted on 11/24/25 at 3:39 pm to ragincajun03
Give the the budget and I can cut taxes in half and give everyone a $5000 tax refund.
Simply abolish welfare and that could be accomplished.
Simply abolish welfare and that could be accomplished.
Posted on 11/24/25 at 3:39 pm to Ten Bears
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remove all COVID dollars,
Those weren't real dollars, those were magical COVID dollars that don't count. Just like everything you're going to eat on Thursday doesn't have real calories, they're magical holiday calories.
This post was edited on 11/24/25 at 3:42 pm
Posted on 11/24/25 at 3:50 pm to High C
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He’s right. It should have NEVER been mentioned.
THIS. I would much rather hear a plan to take every cent collected in tariffs and apply it directly to the national debt. Help the this generation and the next, while decreasing foreign influence over this country (those that hold our debt).
Posted on 11/24/25 at 3:56 pm to High C
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He’s right. It should have NEVER been mentioned.
Trump is far more concerned with his personal popularity than he is with sound governance and fiscal restraint.
Posted on 11/24/25 at 3:59 pm to The Baker
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They can afford billions to israel
And to Ukraine and every other Tom, Dock, and Harry out there, but for Americans suddenly the deficit matters?
Posted on 11/24/25 at 4:04 pm to ragincajun03
The whole thing is just Trump wanting to raise his popularity by giving shite away. He did this last time he was POTUS. It did not work on his popularity. He has started turning on those in own party who don't bend the knee enough and now he's giving money away and ballooning the deficit.
Trump is not a conservative. He's a populist. The only thing that really matters to him is being popular.
Trump is not a conservative. He's a populist. The only thing that really matters to him is being popular.
Posted on 11/24/25 at 4:13 pm to ragincajun03
Then how can we afford Ukraine?
Posted on 11/24/25 at 4:16 pm to Tantal
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fiscal restraint.
Last I checked, all spending bills need to start in the house. Which is (R) controlled.
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sound governance
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