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re: Senate Republican: ‘We can’t afford’ $2,000 tariff checks

Posted on 11/24/25 at 2:15 pm to
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
16055 posts
Posted on 11/24/25 at 2:15 pm to
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Let's just pull up the drawbridge and stay inside the moat.

Idiotic.

Why did we send a billion dollars to Afghanistan a year after our withdrawal? All they needed to do was sell the billions of dollars in equipment we left behind.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
54697 posts
Posted on 11/24/25 at 2:15 pm to
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he wrong?


No
Posted by Rooski
Member since Dec 2024
126 posts
Posted on 11/24/25 at 2:19 pm to
It's our money to begin with. .gov doesn't make any.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37265 posts
Posted on 11/24/25 at 2:21 pm to
Agree.

And as a separate matter, why are these things income determined?

Give to all or give to none. The middle class and wealthy pay way more than anyone else already.
This post was edited on 11/24/25 at 2:22 pm
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
14593 posts
Posted on 11/24/25 at 2:22 pm to
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$38T in debt
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
76442 posts
Posted on 11/24/25 at 2:29 pm to
The political class saying we can’t afford giving cash to working Americans is the absolute pinnacle of hypocrisy.

If you disagree
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
37959 posts
Posted on 11/24/25 at 2:31 pm to
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They can afford billions to israel

Over $300B to Ukraine.

Over $100B of it is "missing".

We spend $100B per year on SNAP.

We spend $67B per year on housing assistant vouchers.

$670M a year for Planned Parenthood.

But yeah, you can't give me any tax money back. Money that I actually worked for.

Now that said, I don't want the shite anyway and I would rather it go towards the national debt, but come on. If you're going to give me some bullshite about "wE CaN't aFFoRd iT" then at least accompany that statement with data about the ridiculous spending in government that leaves us fleeced and flaccid.
Posted by ljhog
Lake Jackson, Tx.
Member since Apr 2009
20583 posts
Posted on 11/24/25 at 2:49 pm to
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“Look, we can’t afford it.

He ain't wrong.
Posted by Stealth Matrix
29°59'55.98"N 90°05'21.85"W
Member since Aug 2019
11684 posts
Posted on 11/24/25 at 2:52 pm to
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Neither party will ever pay down the debt.

Yep.

Whatever legal entities succeed the United States will be saddled down with the debt.
Posted by Ten Bears
Florida
Member since Oct 2018
5042 posts
Posted on 11/24/25 at 2:55 pm to
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Nope. It was $660 billion in 2017 and got higher every year and was almost $1 trillion by 2019.


And in 2020, when you remove all COVID dollars, the deficit was $1.02 trillion.

And this year it is $1.75 trillion, and 2026 is projected to be $1.6 trillion.

But I was told in another thread that this will all be fixed by DOGE.

How Trump escaped any accountability for inflation is perhaps the greatest political feat in the history of politics.
Posted by MikkUGA
Destin
Member since Jun 2014
2961 posts
Posted on 11/24/25 at 3:04 pm to
Projected by who? the Trump spending bill would add 3 trillion to the debt OVER 10 years. It equaled out to 330 billion a year. The spending hasnt been that low since 2007 and that is before any tariffs are applied to it. You must have got those numbers from the same people that projected the gdp at 1.5% when it came in at 4.2%
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
29190 posts
Posted on 11/24/25 at 3:12 pm to
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as a separate matter, why are these things income determined?

Give to all or give to none. The middle class and wealthy pay way more than anyone else already.


Because they made a “promise” on tweeter and now have to try to balance out the wealth redistribution vs what has actually been taken in via the tariffs.

So if you make more than about $150k a year, you’re going to get the shaft. More class warfare for votes.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
17126 posts
Posted on 11/24/25 at 3:39 pm to
Give the the budget and I can cut taxes in half and give everyone a $5000 tax refund.

Simply abolish welfare and that could be accomplished.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
16055 posts
Posted on 11/24/25 at 3:39 pm to
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remove all COVID dollars,

Those weren't real dollars, those were magical COVID dollars that don't count. Just like everything you're going to eat on Thursday doesn't have real calories, they're magical holiday calories.
This post was edited on 11/24/25 at 3:42 pm
Posted by HC87
Coastal NC
Member since Dec 2014
5637 posts
Posted on 11/24/25 at 3:50 pm to
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He’s right. It should have NEVER been mentioned.


THIS. I would much rather hear a plan to take every cent collected in tariffs and apply it directly to the national debt. Help the this generation and the next, while decreasing foreign influence over this country (those that hold our debt).

Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
19821 posts
Posted on 11/24/25 at 3:56 pm to
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He’s right. It should have NEVER been mentioned.

Trump is far more concerned with his personal popularity than he is with sound governance and fiscal restraint.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
Undisclosed Secure Location
Member since Feb 2008
24821 posts
Posted on 11/24/25 at 3:59 pm to
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They can afford billions to israel


And to Ukraine and every other Tom, Dock, and Harry out there, but for Americans suddenly the deficit matters?
Posted by hansenthered1
Dixie
Member since Nov 2023
2638 posts
Posted on 11/24/25 at 4:04 pm to
The whole thing is just Trump wanting to raise his popularity by giving shite away. He did this last time he was POTUS. It did not work on his popularity. He has started turning on those in own party who don't bend the knee enough and now he's giving money away and ballooning the deficit.

Trump is not a conservative. He's a populist. The only thing that really matters to him is being popular.
Posted by Crappieman
Member since Apr 2025
2151 posts
Posted on 11/24/25 at 4:13 pm to
Then how can we afford Ukraine?
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
16055 posts
Posted on 11/24/25 at 4:16 pm to
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fiscal restraint.

Last I checked, all spending bills need to start in the house. Which is (R) controlled.
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sound governance


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