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Sean Spicer said on his podcast that Trump might want the filibuster killed

Posted on 11/6/24 at 9:00 pm
Posted by Bamatab
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Posted on 11/6/24 at 9:00 pm
The way he said it made it sound like it was something that he was hearing. He said he wouldn't be surprised if he says he'll back which ever Republican Senate Leader candidate that agrees to help him kill it.

I'm not sure how I would feel about that. I would prefer that the filibuster stay in place because it keep either side from passing something crazy (especially the dems). But the dems have said they will kill it the first chance they get anyways, so maybe we should just go ahead and do it first so that we can pass something like election integrity laws.

Starts at the 22:30 mark
This post was edited on 11/6/24 at 9:02 pm
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80527 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 9:02 pm to
It basically keeps anyone from passing anything controversial in any way unless they have 60 votes.

It needs to be removed and just deal with the flips back and forth.
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 11/6/24 at 9:03 pm to
Sean Spicer does not know his arse from a hole in the ground.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80527 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 9:04 pm to
quote:

Sean Spicer does not know his arse from a hole in the ground.


Trump wouldn't be able to pass anything unless they do.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8645 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 9:05 pm to
That would be monumentally stupid.
Posted by Padme
Member since Dec 2020
9784 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 9:05 pm to
Good, Rinos have hidden behind it for years, let your yes be yes and no be no
Posted by labamafan
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 11/6/24 at 9:08 pm to
If the democrats had house, senate, presidency and SC would we as conservatives want the filibuster removed? I would not; I think it’s in place for a reason.
Posted by MMauler
Primary This RINO Traitor
Member since Jun 2013
24487 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 9:23 pm to
Not in favor of this at all. This is the kind of shite that Democrats fricking pull. Remember when Dingy Harry invoked the nuclear option to pack the DC circuit. Well, they got away with it. However, it came back to bite them in the a$$.

Same thing with packing the Supreme Court. It’s just a scumbag move that will have reverberations for a very long time. I’m all in favor of putting the Democrat court packing bill up before the Senate, but I’d want every Republican to vote it down as a show of decency and morality.

If we end the filibuster, I guaranf*ckingtee you it will come back to bite us in the a$$ one day. It just sends a really, really bad precedent.
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
29957 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 9:27 pm to
There is no need. If we have all three houses then we have 2 years to pass stuff without it.
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
27322 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 9:30 pm to
You can't pass legistalture outside of financial shite without the 60 votes in Senate.

Trump wants voter/anti-fraud laws on the books, immigration law in the books, etc.
Posted by Srbtiger06
Member since Apr 2006
29284 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 9:36 pm to
Bad move. Really bad move.

One of those "ok you're happy now BUT if the other guy uses it..." moves.
Posted by GeauxTigers123
Member since Feb 2007
3688 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 9:40 pm to
This would be a horrible idea.


Just like it was a bad idea for the liberals to start political prosecution. Because the other side will get power back again.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 9:41 pm to
Bring back the original version of the filibuster. If you are really passionate against a resolution then set your arse up in the Senate chamber and don’t stop talking until the Senate relents. That’s the real filibuster. Not this modern parliamentary cloture rule filibuster.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 11/6/24 at 9:48 pm to
Would be short sighted
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
29957 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 9:49 pm to
quote:

You can't pass legislature outside of financial shite without the 60 votes in Senate.


True but it works both ways. In 2 years if Dems take Senate they would take our guns away (try). You have to look at bigger picture. Trump can put pressure on some Dems in Pub areas to help pass bills.

Don’t forget, its rare to have all 3 houses at once and people usually like it split. In 2 years they might want some balance and install Dems in one or both houses.

Then they could pass all kinds of crazy shite. Even of we used it for good, they would use it for bad.
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
16257 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 9:50 pm to
quote:

Bring back the original version of the filibuster. If you are really passionate against a resolution then set your arse up in the Senate chamber and don’t stop talking until the Senate relents. That’s the real filibuster. Not this modern parliamentary cloture rule filibuster.

No that I can get behind.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 10:02 pm to
The filibuster started with Aaron Burr. Then it morphed into a senate parliamentary rule requiring cloture. The talking filibuster was never an overt but an implied part of the senate rules of the founders.
This post was edited on 11/6/24 at 10:07 pm
Posted by Shamoan
Member since Feb 2019
13802 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 10:08 pm to
Hell, I think the dems were on to something regarding expanding the Supreme Court. I think, now that the democrats showed such bravery bringing that issue into the light, it’s time to pack the court, just as democrats have suggested.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
25855 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 10:08 pm to
Would be a horrible idea and almost guarantee the Dems take back Congress in 2 years. They will run non-stop on claiming eliminating the filibuster is Trump destroying democracy (forget that a lot of Dems wanted to do the same thing 6 months ago). And it’lo definitely come back to bite us in the arse when there’s a Dem president and Dem congress in the future.
Posted by TTOWN RONMON
Member since Oct 2023
1646 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 10:48 pm to
quote:

It basically keeps anyone from passing anything controversial in any way unless they have 60 votes.

It needs to be removed and just deal with the flips back and forth.


Why are you guys down voting this? Remember, I am good at solving riddles, playing Chess, seeing into things what others miss.

I will prove 100% The Filibuster is a scheme used by the Elites to screw the average joe and to fleece us the American Taxpayer.. Now of course in the early 1800s they used the 2/3 rule instead of the 60 percent rule 60 out of 100. But they actually used this to create debate and compromise between parties who were usually pretty close on a bill to start with, but these Elitist Senators from both parties have allowed this Filibuster rule to become a prop for hiding from both graft, and responsibility, which is why we now have a UNI-PARTY.

You see, the Public voted the Republicans to have all three Branches of Gov. (It seems like that will be the case) but Schumer and his boys can get their regular GRAFT by simply holding up bills and mandating their pork is in the bill, or there will be no bill. Likewise, if there is something the Republican base really, really want and the Deep State & Elites are against it, they can just say, we don't have 60 votes. That's why it is seem as a UNI-PARTY, they are both working hand in hand no mater who is in control, and they can blame it on the 60 vote rule !!

Used to be that way for Supreme Court Justices until the Dems changed it, but notice, the Republicans usually got played when they had to have 60 votes, Souter was a Liberal, and a lot of the R picks turned out t be really bad. That's because the UNI-PARTY did not want Justices in that would do what the Supreme Court just did recently, dismantling the Deep State in one of its recent rulings about these DC Deep State Workers setting policies that were never passed into law.

Both sides use this 60 vote rule in order so that they are NEVER held accountable unto their bases. That's why the House does the Continuing Resolutions, they know the Senate will never get the 60 votes, so they have to sell out on spending,

Could you see a Big Business having a rule that 75 percent of a board has to agree on any deals they make? The Board votes in a President or Chairman, who hires the right guy and turns him loose. With a 50 vote rule Johnson nor McConnel (are WHOEVER) would have no excuses not to pass legislation their bases wants. BUT WITH THE STUPID 60 VOTE RULE, they never have to own up to this out of control spending, they just say, we couldn't get 60 votes so we had to compromise.

They are PLAYING US FOR SUCKER & FOOLS.
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