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re: Sean Duffy reveals China built 1,800 ships in 2022 while the U.S. built just 5
Posted on 4/9/25 at 8:48 pm to RFK
Posted on 4/9/25 at 8:48 pm to RFK
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Ok let’s unpack this a little. 1. What qualifies as a “ship”? We build all of our own military ships. 2. What’s the type of ship China is building? What’s the quality? 3. If we’re talking military, their ships are no where near as advanced as ours. This is a little sensationalist to me.
Actually no. In terms of national defense, how do you move the tanks, ammo, helicopters, medical supplies, food, fuel, etc.
You need merchant vessels. This was highlighted during the first gulf war when we had to contract Russian ships and crews to supply the war effort.
Chinese built merchant vessels are not advanced but they have the ability to churn out thousands a year. With their ever expanding port purchases they now have logistic bases throughout the world with the ability to move cargo swiftly and efficiently.
The US has an aging and ever shrinking fleet and ever shrinking population of experienced mariners that if we went to war would probably have so many mechanical issues and accidents we’d leave our troops stranded and starving.
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Posted on 4/9/25 at 8:56 pm to RFK
Let’s unpack.
At some point you just have to admit you have TDS.
Seriously, Trump consistently knows more than you fools.
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In 2020, U.S. shipbuilders delivered a total of 608 vessels.
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In 2021, U.S. shipbuilders delivered a total of 235 vessels.
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According to a Government Accountability Office (GAO) report, the Navy planned to deliver two Virginia-class submarines and three Arleigh Burke-class destroyers in fiscal year 2022. The actual deliveries were two Virginia-class submarines and one Arleigh Burke-class destroyer. This indicates that five ships were planned, but only three were delivered in that fiscal year.
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The U.S. shipbuilding capacity is significantly smaller compared to global competitors, with the U.S. producing fewer than 10 ocean-going vessels in 2023, while China produced over 1,000.
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These challenges highlight the need for strategic investments and policy measures to revitalize the U.S. shipbuilding industry and enhance its competitiveness on the global stage.
At some point you just have to admit you have TDS.
Seriously, Trump consistently knows more than you fools.
This post was edited on 4/9/25 at 9:01 pm
Posted on 4/9/25 at 9:12 pm to John Barron
I mean, those numbers are certainly concerning.
There's a certain degree of relief, however, in knowing that these ships are made in China.
There's a certain degree of relief, however, in knowing that these ships are made in China.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 9:21 pm to Bengalbio
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We? This son of a bitch is using "we". I don't give a shite where you're from, just don't use "we".
We think you are a dumbass.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 9:50 pm to John Barron
Posted on 4/9/25 at 10:12 pm to RFK
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1. What qualifies as a “ship”? We build all of our own military ships.
2. What’s the type of ship China is building? What’s the quality?
3. If we’re talking military, their ships are no where near as advanced as ours.
The first destroyer just hit the white caps.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 10:17 pm to John Barron
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Sean Duffy reveals China built 1,800 ships in 2022
Posted on 4/9/25 at 10:18 pm to John Barron
CHine needed thoe 1800 ships to bring over all the junk they are selling at Family dollar and dollar general... which will be in our landfills by next fall.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 10:59 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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We can't compete.
You don't want to compete. It's too painful.
"We can't break our addiction because we're weak. We can't make ships, or cars, or AI chips, or IPhones, or rare earth metals, or anything we actually need to survive as a sovereign nation. We're dependent. The rest of the world will be good to us and keep giving us trinkets as we sink back on the couch, turn on the tv and fade into nothing. I promise".
You're a quitter and a future victim of natural selection. I hope people like don't destroy the entire country as you wallow in your self pity. The younger generations will have buck up, take charge and run you over.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 11:04 pm to John Barron
I would rather us scrap the Jones Act entirely than overcorrect our inter-port shipping policies to the extent necessary to force American shipyards to build the boats necessary to make up that gap.
Posted on 4/10/25 at 6:18 am to TigerAxeOK
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There's a certain degree of relief, however, in knowing that these ships are made in China.
The quality of Chinese made ships has been improving. All the technology they’ve stolen from US and European companies is starting to bear fruit.
Posted on 4/10/25 at 6:25 am to John Barron
China is getting ready to do some shite.
Posted on 4/10/25 at 7:07 am to notiger1997
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quote:This is a little sensationalist to me. More than a little. The OP is a legit lunatic.
He posted a video and said it was almost unbelievable. Sensationalist?
Posted on 4/10/25 at 7:38 am to kingbob
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I would rather us scrap the Jones Act entirely
The jones act is the only thing keeping what little ship building industry we have alive. You would have foreign flagged and crewed vessels pushing barges up the Mississippi in no time. We can’t compete price wise on large container ships and tankers we would no doubt build a fantastic product but our lead time and price would be ridiculous compared to what they can do in Asia. Jones act keeps the small shipyards active building for the oil and gas along with brown water.
Posted on 4/10/25 at 7:40 am to John Barron
But we named our ships after LGBTQ heroes, so that equals it out.
Posted on 4/10/25 at 7:45 am to BuckyCheese
These other countries are heavily subsidizing their ship building industries
Posted on 4/10/25 at 7:47 am to AFistfulof$
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These other countries are heavily subsidizing their ship building industries
They also have dirt cheap expendable labor and don’t have to deal with osha, epa, deq etc
Posted on 4/10/25 at 7:53 am to AFistfulof$
For any EU country to build ships it would have to be heavily subsidized given their labor costs and environmental regs
Posted on 4/10/25 at 9:29 am to bayoudude
[quote]The jones act is the only thing keeping what little ship building industry we have alive. You would have foreign flagged and crewed vessels pushing barges up the Mississippi in no time. We can’t compete price wise on large container ships and tankers we would no doubt build a fantastic product but our lead time and price would be ridiculous compared to what they can do in Asia. Jones act keeps the small shipyards active building for the oil and gas along with brown water.[/The jones act is the only thing keeping what little ship building industry we have alive. You would have foreign flagged and crewed vessels pushing barges up the Mississippi in no time. We can’t compete price wise on large container ships and tankers we would no doubt build a fantastic product but our lead time and price would be ridiculous compared to what they can do in Asia. Jones act keeps the small shipyards active building for the oil and gas along with brown water.
This. Every country in the world has cabotage laws.
This. Every country in the world has cabotage laws.
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