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re: Screenshots of the pistol discharging in the agent's hand
Posted on 1/26/26 at 8:13 am to Bayou
Posted on 1/26/26 at 8:13 am to Bayou
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This incident is a sidetrack to the primary problem
You got that right. What we witnessing is a struggle between competing idealogical factions over who commands ultimate power in the government.
This is in reality a war between the left (globalist) and right (nationalist) wings of the Deep State. As in 2020, what we are witnessing in Minneapolis has all the hallmarks of the CIA-backed color revolutions we have seen abroad — such as Ukraine’s Orange Revolution and Georgia’s Rose Revolution — yet now these efforts are turned against the Constitution itself.
The destabilization effort we are witnessing in Deep Blue cities is the globalists’ attempt to either regain and/or maintain their death grip on power. Citizens in both Blue and Red States are thus mere political chess pieces in this power struggle.
With that in mind, both Ashli Babbitt and Renee Good were in many respects simply sacrificial pawns in that deadly chess game. This perpetual power struggle between Red and Blue State Americans empowers both wings of the permanent bipartisan reigning regime in Washington D.C.
The best we can expect from Pam Bondi is a strongly worded social media statement and perhaps some arrests of some low level street goons. So while “We The People” cower in fear, the Deep State continues to consolidate it’s power in Washington D.C. no matter what party is in power.
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Posted on 1/26/26 at 8:17 am to TX Tiger
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Stopped reading there.
That’s your problem and the problem of people on either side of this situation. They’ve made their mind up, facts be damned. Some here don’t want to believe the weapon discharged randomly because they want to believe he’s on the ground with a gun in his hand fighting the cops. Some don’t want to believe it discharged on its own because they fervently believe that the cop fired every shot in cold blooded murder… The rest of us can actually look at the evidence and draw a reasonable conclusion that is pretty down the middle.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 8:24 am to Blizzard of Chizz
quote:You seem to be the arbiter of truth. What exactly is your “reasonable conclusion.”
The rest of us can actually look at the evidence and draw a reasonable conclusion that is pretty down the middle.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 8:27 am to TX Tiger
quote:That shooting a tire out wouldn't have helped in thsi scenario.
What exactly is your “reasonable conclusion.”
Posted on 1/26/26 at 8:29 am to Blizzard of Chizz
We can debate all day whether the shooting of Pretti was justified. But what’s disturbing to me is after Pretti was shot 3-4 times times and was lying there motionless. The ICE agents had backed away from the body but one ICE agent from a few feet away needlessly continued to shoot 5 more times into his body.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 8:41 am to The Torch
You are right! Most states that are even pro Carry do not allow you to bring a gun to public demonstrations or parades or Mardi Gras. I can’t believe Minnesota would slow you to being a weapon to an anti law enforcement protest. Had that gun gone off, accidentally or not and killed an agent that pink would be facing murder 1 or 2.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 8:48 am to TX Tiger
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You seem to be the arbiter of truth. What exactly is your “reasonable conclusion.”
I’ve posted my conclusions multiple times including in this thread as to what occurred. I’ve moved from he got what he deserved to his choices not withstanding, what actually triggered his demise was an unfortunate set of circumstances triggered by his weapon discharging randomly because of a known defect.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 8:50 am to gumbeaux
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We can debate all day whether the shooting of Pretti was justified. But what’s disturbing to me is after Pretti was shot 3-4 times times and was lying there motionless. The ICE agents had backed away from the body but one ICE agent from a few feet away needlessly continued to shoot 5 more times into his body.
To clarify, they were Border Patrol, and there are rumblings that Homan and ICE are getting tired of their frickups.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 8:52 am to Blizzard of Chizz
quote:Show me where I’ve said different.
You seem to be the arbiter of truth. What exactly is your “reasonable conclusion.”
I’ve posted my conclusions multiple times including in this thread as to what occurred. I’ve moved from he got what he deserved to his choices not withstanding, what actually triggered his demise was an unfortunate set of circumstances triggered by his weapon discharging randomly because of a known defect.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 8:53 am to Blizzard of Chizz
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I’ve moved from he got what he deserved to his choices not withstanding, what actually triggered his demise was an unfortunate set of circumstances triggered by his weapon discharging randomly because of a known defect.
I think it's equally likely that the agent fat-fingered the trigger, but I've not gone deep into the Sig stuff.
"Deserves" isn't the correct word but it's close. He willingly created circumstances that made a lethal outcome MUCH, MUCH more likely than simply carrying and minding your own business. He was obviously ok with increasing those odds and they didn't go his way.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 8:57 am to TX Tiger
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Show me where I’ve said different.
Is this you?
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Protests there didn’t ramp up either until ICE began randomly stopping, harassing and murdering US citizens.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 9:01 am to VooDude
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This is why I don’t trust anything but Glocks.
Agreed. Although, my P226, P229, 1911, and FNX45 have all proven themselves reliable and safe.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 9:01 am to Flats
quote:Yep. What’s your point?
Show me where I’ve said different.
Is this you?
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Protests there didn’t ramp up either until ICE began randomly stopping, harassing and murdering US citizens.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 9:03 am to TX Tiger
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Yep. What’s your point?
These are not the same:
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murder
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an unfortunate set of circumstances triggered by his weapon discharging randomly because of a known defect.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 9:05 am to gumbeaux
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We can debate all day whether the shooting of Pretti was justified. But what’s disturbing to me is after Pretti was shot 3-4 times times and was lying there motionless. The ICE agents had backed away from the body but one ICE agent from a few feet away needlessly continued to shoot 5 more times into his body.
Police officers are trained to shoot until the threat has stopped, not for a specific number of rounds.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 9:12 am to TX Tiger
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You seem to be the arbiter of truth.
You are doing the same thing, dingus.
By the way, you should run for office. You are very skilled at bringing folks around to your side. Pure talent. You’ve really been able to get folks to see how evil ICE is.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 9:12 am to Flats
quote:Sorry, that’s not an excuse for murder.
murder
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an unfortunate set of circumstances triggered by his weapon discharging randomly because of a known defect.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 9:14 am to SlowFlowPro
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and there are rumblings that Homan and ICE are getting tired of their frickups.
Where are you hearing this? Can you post a link?
Posted on 1/26/26 at 9:20 am to roadGator
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By the way, you should run for office. You are very skilled at bringing folks around to your side. Pure talent. You’ve really been able to get folks to see how evil ICE is.
There’s no reasoning with a cult. I’m just pointing out the hypocrisy and you’re triggered by it.
It’s the same fight I had years ago with the Obamabots. No difference.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 9:20 am to AUstar
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Sig Sauer finna get the ambulance chasing lawyer treatment.
SFP finna eat?
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