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re: SCOTUS rules that bans on lgbt conversion therapy violate first amendment
Posted on 3/31/26 at 10:22 am to wesfau
Posted on 3/31/26 at 10:22 am to wesfau
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KJB's dissent was based on this person not having a license of any sort for this sort of work.
From the article
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The case, Chiles v. Salazar, was brought by Kaley Chiles, a licensed counselor
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Posted on 3/31/26 at 10:26 am to wesfau
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This is abusive therapy inflicted upon gay kids by their shitheel parents to pray/beat the "gay" out of them.
Not entirely true
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"talk therapy to minors who want to reduce feelings of same-sex attraction or feel more comfortable in their bodies."
Sexual attraction and gender identity are two very different issues and should be treated differently. Colorado fricked up by conflating the two together as the same thing in their ban of "conversion therapy", when those two things are not the same.
This all stems from the problem with the whole LGBTQ+ idealogy. There are obvious Nuances once you get past the LGB's, and acting like all this shite should be treated as if they are all one thing is beyond stupid.
This post was edited on 3/31/26 at 10:30 am
Posted on 3/31/26 at 10:26 am to Dawgfanman
Poor wording on my part. She's not a licensed medical doctor/psych.
Posted on 3/31/26 at 10:27 am to SUB
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Colorado fricked up by conflating the two together as the same thing in their ban of "conversion therapy", when those two things are not the same.
Yeah, statutory drafting is tricky work.
Posted on 3/31/26 at 10:27 am to Trevaylin
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Scotus did tell Colorado that the state cannot ban a physiologist from talking about the ill effects of actually using the scaple/drug
This has to do with conversion therapy, meaning you counsel the gay out of someone. This is not a conversion as in converting from male to female. The court said a State cannot ban a medical professional from discussing a course of treatment. Now banning an actual treatment is a totally different discussion.
Posted on 3/31/26 at 10:28 am to lsu777
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Conversion therapy is NOT trying to get people to become trans, its the OPPOSITE
now i could have it backwards too but I think i am right and understanding correctly.
Realistically it’s probably applied to both.
Posted on 3/31/26 at 10:29 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Just genocide me already.
Posted on 3/31/26 at 10:34 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Liberals: Doctors should be able to saw off a child's penis and pump him full of nasty hormones without the parent's consent or knowledge if he thinks he might prefer being a female.
Also Liberals: Doctors should NOT be able to talk to children about hetero-normative therapy options if he thinks he might be gay.
Also Liberals: Doctors should NOT be able to talk to children about hetero-normative therapy options if he thinks he might be gay.
Posted on 3/31/26 at 10:34 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
The entire opinion, including the preamble description of the case, is 66 pages long.
Jackson's dissent starts on page 32. Her opinion is longer than the summary, the majority opinion, and Kagan's concurring opinion, combined.
I'm not even going to read it. I bet it's the legal equivalent of a leftist loon on Facebook writing a novel to say nothing of consequence.
Jackson's dissent starts on page 32. Her opinion is longer than the summary, the majority opinion, and Kagan's concurring opinion, combined.
I'm not even going to read it. I bet it's the legal equivalent of a leftist loon on Facebook writing a novel to say nothing of consequence.
Posted on 3/31/26 at 10:41 am to dyslexiateechur
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Conversion therapy is great for when you’d rather have a dead kid than a gay one.
The suicide rate among of trannies is already super high.
You take a chance either way.
Posted on 3/31/26 at 11:16 am to dyslexiateechur
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Conversion therapy is great for when you’d rather have a dead kid than a gay one.
Theoretically, is there a big difference?
Posted on 3/31/26 at 11:44 am to Clames
She may go down as one of the worst SCOTUS judges all time, and thats saying a lot with Sotomayor and Keegan on the bench.
Posted on 3/31/26 at 12:02 pm to wesfau
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KJB's dissent was based on this person not having a license of any sort for this sort of work.
Which is a state licensing issue, and should have no relevance on whether the Colorado statute was a 1st Amendment violation.
Also
quote:continues proving KJB is a hack activist, not a justice.
Kaley Chiles, a licensed counselor
Posted on 3/31/26 at 12:04 pm to Clames
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The ruling is a win for the Trump administration, which urged the court to declare that Colorado’s ban violates free speech rights.
The case, Chiles v. Salazar, was brought by Kaley Chiles, a licensed counselor who described herself as a practicing Christian who sometimes provides counseling informed by her faith. Chiles said she wished to offer talk therapy to minors who want to reduce feelings of same-sex attraction or feel more comfortable in their bodies.
Chiles isn’t licensed to prescribe medicine or perform surgery, so the ruling does not directly impact states’ power to regulate those sorts of interventions.
Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson was the sole dissenter. She said the court was unwisely interfering in the long tradition of states’ regulating the practice of medicine and similar professions.
"Chiles is not speaking in the ether; she is providing therapy to minors as a licensed healthcare professional,” Jackson wrote. She declared that conversion therapy is dangerous and said the court’s decision “opens a dangerous can of worms.”
“It threatens to impair States’ ability to regulate the provision of medical care in any respect. It extends the Constitution into uncharted territory in an utterly irrational fashion. And it ultimately risks grave harm to Americans’ health and wellbeing,” she added, reading portions of her dissent from the bench in a sign of deep disagreement.
Posted on 3/31/26 at 12:10 pm to hogcard1964
if you raise your child right, it wouldn't be a problem. Rule one is do not expose them to people like the ones posting here who support a hedonistic society of pinko commie transies running naked in the streets all day.
Posted on 3/31/26 at 12:16 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Gee I wonder who the lone dissent came from? You would think when even Wise Latina is on the right side of a ruling it would be unanimous, but no this DEI wonder will sit on the court and continue to make fricking stupid rulings.
Posted on 3/31/26 at 12:16 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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HailHailtoMichigan
You should probably change your title to “gay conversion therapy“ instead of "lgbt conversion therapy."
Just about everyone reading your title thinks this is about transitioning to a different sex..
Posted on 3/31/26 at 12:18 pm to dyslexiateechur
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Conversion therapy is great for when you’d rather have a dead kid than a gay one.
This is definitely the lie the trans people push. "Live daughter than a dead son." It's total bullshite.
The truth is that trans "identity" is social contagion in most cases and if a kid is allowed to walk that path they will very likely wind up sterile, may well wind up mutilated, and will have a *higher* risk of suicide. Not a lower one.
Posted on 3/31/26 at 12:18 pm to Trevaylin
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Scotus did tell Colorado that the state cannot ban a physiologist from talking about the ill effects of actually using the scaple/drug
this. we should all be cheering this ruling.
maybe OP should go back to the drawing board on the OP or anchor this thread and start a new one.
Posted on 3/31/26 at 12:24 pm to brass2mouth
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Realistically it’s probably applied to both.
I am wondering the same thing.
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