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re: SCOTUS: ballots can be counted after election day

Posted on 6/29/26 at 11:28 am to
Posted by BoarEd
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Member since Oct 2015
39223 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 11:28 am to
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This decision actually justifies the SAVE Act.


Then it is now time for POTUS to copy the SAVE Act over word for word and sign it into law via EO.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
169268 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 11:33 am to
Absentee ballots or mail in ballots?

In PA on the registration if one checked off mail in ballot, it is permanent unless changed. Few take the time to change...

Posted by ATrillionaire
Houston
Member since Sep 2008
3355 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 11:38 am to
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States are corrupt and wrong and you’re expecting the corrupt, wrong states to fix their process?

Is the Fed not?
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
82977 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 11:40 am to
This overlooks the core problem will mail voting in general.


When drop your ballot in the mailbox, you didn’t actually vote.
Another person voted twice.

Once with his own vote and once by deciding whether or not to deliver your ballot.
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 11:42 am to
The Dems don't need to pack the court.
Posted by Marshhen
Port Eads
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 11:47 am to

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"If postmarked before election day".... very important part of this you conveniently left out


I wonder how the ruling impacts the (at least) 10 states (California, Illinois, Maryland, Minnesota, Nevada, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, Washington and West Virginia) that accept ballots with missing or illegible postmarks arriving after Election Day.

Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
129137 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 12:01 pm to
These states allow ballots received after election day to be counted.


Mississippi, Alaska, Texas

West Virginia

California, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, Nevada, New Jersey, Oregon, Virginia, Washington

Notes:
Texas’ deadline is 5 PM of the day following the election da

Virginia and Massachusetts allow until the 3rd day after the election.

Nevada allows until the 4th day after the polls close. If there’s an “unclear” postmark and it’s received within three days, it’s fine. Nevada voters automatically get a ballot in the mail.

New Jersey allows until-postmarked ballots up to two days after the election.

California, New York and Oregon all get six days after the polls close. California is also a universal mail-in voting state.

If the ballot has “no postmark, a postmark with no date, or an illegible postmark,” the date the voter put on their envelope determines the vote’s validity.

Alaska and Maryland have 10 days.

Illinois has two weeks.

Washington allows three weeks. Washington is also a universal mail-in voting state. If the postmark is “missing or illegible,” the date the voter put on the ballot determines the validity.

It seems that the post office really runs into a lot of issues in figuring out how to postmark ballots in the mail.


ETA: Mississippi might have changed their law already.
This post was edited on 6/29/26 at 12:02 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 12:03 pm to
Your mother certainly is.
Posted by Don Quixote
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 12:17 pm to
Justice Alito writes in the dissenting opinion, “Federal law designates ‘the Tuesday next after the first Monday in November’ as ‘election day,’ 3 U. S. C. §21, and provides that elections for federal office must be held on that date,” noting that the electorate must, in accordance with federal election-day statutes, make its choice on election day.

“If ballots received after election day are added to the set of ballots that dictate the election’s outcome, the electorate’s choice does not occur on election day, and the federal election-day statutes are violated,” he continues. “The acceptance of these late-arriving ballots effectively postpones the date on which the electorate’s choice is made, and federal law precludes that postponement.”

He further argues that the definition of “election” in “election day” is the “expression of the electorate’s choice,” making it necessary that the final submission and collection of ballots must occur on one election day, not five days after, as permitted by Mississippi law.

“Back when all voting occurred in person, the voters went to the polls on election day. They then completed ballots and turned them over to election officials. When the polls closed, those officials had in their possession a fixed collection of ballots, and taken together, those ballots embodied the electorate’s collective choice,” he writes.

Today, the use of mail-in voting, he writes, “cannot change the fact that under federal law, the electorate’s collective choice must still be authoritatively expressed on election day.”

“The Court disagrees and concludes that the election-day statutes merely require that each individual cast a vote on or before election day. See ante, at 9. But if that is all that the election-day statutes require, there is no sense in which the electorate as a whole can be seen as making its choice on election day. Rather, the electorate’s choice would be made piecemeal over an extended period prior to election day, and that prospect is blatantly contrary to what the election-day statutes demand,” he writes. “Election day is a specified date, not a span of multiple days. The election-day statutes require that federal elections occur on that date.” Alito further notes that under Mississippi’s law, allowing ballot collection to continue for five days after election day, “the ‘election’ is not held until the end of that period” in violation of federal law.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44760 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 1:18 pm to
So this won’t occur again:

Pennsylvania and late ballots in 2020.
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
8532 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 1:21 pm to
quote:

f the ballot has “no postmark, a postmark with no date, or an illegible postmark,” the date the voter put on their envelope determines the vote’s validity.


I would argue that if the Supreme Court decision says it must be postmarked before election day that any variation would make that ballot not proper
Posted by PeleofAnalytics
Member since Jun 2021
5488 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 1:25 pm to
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I don't have a problem with this IF they are postmarked before election day

I might not have a problem but I know how easy it is to get a stamp. I remember once walking into the post office and finding a certified mail receipt stamp just sitting on one of the tables for anyone to take.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
89370 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 1:27 pm to
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Chief Justice Roberts joined Amy Coney Barrett and sided with the liberal justices.


Posted by themunch
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Member since Jan 2007
72199 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 1:29 pm to
So I should be able to walk in after election day and vote. No.


“If ballots received after election day are added to the set of ballots that dictate the election’s outcome, the electorate’s choice does not occur on election day, and the federal election-day statutes are violated,” he continues. “The acceptance of these late-arriving ballots effectively postpones the date on which the electorate’s choice is made, and federal law precludes that postponement.”
This post was edited on 6/29/26 at 1:32 pm
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45787 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 1:33 pm to
Time for republicans to figure out this whole vote by mail fraud thing and start playing by the democrats rules.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37964 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 1:44 pm to
Ahhhhh.....here comes the newest conspiracy.....can't trust the postmark.

Some days I tune in just observe the stupidity. Today has been a real treat with this add on to the never ending inventory of conspiracies
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63386 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 1:50 pm to
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Ahhhhh.....here comes the newest conspiracy.....can't trust the postmark.

Some days I tune in just observe the stupidity. Today has been a real treat with this add on to the never ending inventory of conspiracies



It's outside of an auditable election system.

Backdating postmarks of invalid votes...slowing down postmarks for valid ballots that are one political group (yes, there's been may cases where the ballot and/or envelope identified the party of the voter) are all ways to cheat in an election.

FWIW, I'm smarter than you.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
129137 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 1:51 pm to
Why allow for it in the law?

It’s an obvious hole and only a retard would say it wasn’t.

quote:

KiwiFag


Checks out.
This post was edited on 6/29/26 at 1:52 pm
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
13451 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 1:52 pm to
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Conservative Justice Amy Coney Barrett


That's not how I would classify her
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
56035 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 1:57 pm to
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SCOTUS: ballots can be counted after election day


This SCOTUS ruling requires some clarification..........The Democratic Socialist can continue to count ballots until they declare they have enough for victory.
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