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re: Sandy Hook families offer to settle with Alex Jones for millions, not billions

Posted on 11/29/23 at 8:35 am to
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
23219 posts
Posted on 11/29/23 at 8:35 am to
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They are desecrating their graves and accosting them in public because of the reputational harm done by Alex Jones and the platform he has to push this narrative against them.


And they chose to jump on his platform, rather than stand by their judgment, which may never be paid but have a better shot at dismantling said platform.

They are taking his money, but letting him keep his influence that hurt them so badly.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35932 posts
Posted on 11/29/23 at 8:35 am to
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The judgement (as you said) triggered bankruptcy, and rather than sit on the judgement meant to cripple Jones financially, they reduced their asking price and now want a cut of his earnings. I’m suggesting that this was always about money


Boom.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13529 posts
Posted on 11/29/23 at 8:35 am to
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I’m suggesting that this was always about money


You think?

(Gasp) Surely not!
Posted by VOR
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
68831 posts
Posted on 11/29/23 at 9:00 am to
Unfortunately, money is the only means available to address wrongs through civil law.
Posted by TigerIn2023
Member since Apr 2023
308 posts
Posted on 11/29/23 at 9:05 am to
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… rather than stand by their judgment, which may never be paid but have a better shot at dismantling said platform.
If the judgement is never paid, why would the platform not continue?
This post was edited on 11/29/23 at 9:07 am
Posted by HeadSlash
TEAM LIVE BADASS - St. GEORGE
Member since Aug 2006
55993 posts
Posted on 11/29/23 at 9:06 am to
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Defamation is in fact illegal.

Telling someone that their kids arent dead is not defamation though.


Jone's opinion
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87405 posts
Posted on 11/29/23 at 9:08 am to
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Calling someone a crisis actor that never had a kid is defamation though.
No it is not.

What?
Posted by TigerIn2023
Member since Apr 2023
308 posts
Posted on 11/29/23 at 9:09 am to
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Jone's opinion


… that he knew was not true.
Posted by HVAU
Up over here
Member since Sep 2010
5165 posts
Posted on 11/29/23 at 9:12 am to
frick Alex Jones.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28172 posts
Posted on 11/29/23 at 9:13 am to
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address wrongs



You think that's what our tort system is about?
Posted by TigerIn2023
Member since Apr 2023
308 posts
Posted on 11/29/23 at 9:19 am to
Do you think the Sandy Hook families were wronged when Alex Jones used his platform to spread knowingly false statements about them?
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13529 posts
Posted on 11/29/23 at 9:36 am to
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… that he knew was not true.


Did it come out in court that he admitted at some point that he knew this?

Because otherwise his deniability is way more plausible than a United States Congressperson who claims the Trump administration was responsible for a law that "separated immigrants from their children."
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13529 posts
Posted on 11/29/23 at 9:37 am to
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Do you think the Sandy Hook families were wronged when Alex Jones used his platform to spread knowingly false statements about them?


I think Republicans were wronged when Maxine Waters knowingly spread false statements about them and deliberately incited people to accost them.

In fact, I think she did more than he did to attempt to cause harm. By a wide margin.

What do you think?
This post was edited on 11/29/23 at 9:39 am
Posted by ljhog
Lake Jackson, Tx.
Member since Apr 2009
20591 posts
Posted on 11/29/23 at 9:42 am to
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He defamed them.

No, he hurt their feelings. They aren't entitled to one damn penny, IMO.
Posted by TigerIn2023
Member since Apr 2023
308 posts
Posted on 11/29/23 at 9:45 am to
Jones's text messages and emails revealed that he was aware that his claims about Sandy Hook were false. In one text message, he wrote, "I was a little bit careless with my words yesterday."

Several of Jones's former employees testified that he instructed them to spread false information about Sandy Hook. One employee said that Jones told him to "make Sandy Hook look like a hoax." Another employee said that Jones told her to "create fake news" about the shooting.

He even admitted to doing so. On multiple occasions, Jones has admitted that he made false statements about Sandy Hook. In one deposition, he said, "I know that some of the things I've said about Sandy Hook have been wrong." In another interview, he said, "I regret some of the things I've said about Sandy Hook."

But by all means, please continue to give the benefit of the doubt to him over the families of victims of an elementary school shooting whom he defamed.
Posted by TigerIn2023
Member since Apr 2023
308 posts
Posted on 11/29/23 at 9:46 am to
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No, he hurt their feelings. They aren't entitled to one damn penny, IMO.
So just to be 100% clear, you believe the parents of children killed in an elementary school shooting simply had their feelings hurt and didn’t suffer any real damages after the graves of their murdered children were desecrated?

YIKES…
Posted by LegalEazyE
Madison, Wisconsin
Member since Nov 2023
6292 posts
Posted on 11/29/23 at 9:53 am to
Did he believe what he said? I bet he did. If so, it's not defamation... even if what he said is incorrect. He's allowed to have an opinion. And it's not exactly like he's been wrong with all his other "outlandish" or "conspiracy theories."
Posted by LegalEazyE
Madison, Wisconsin
Member since Nov 2023
6292 posts
Posted on 11/29/23 at 9:55 am to
It has to be a knowingly false statement. If the person making the statement believes it, it is not defamation. Sorry. No matter how many fee fees it hurts.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13529 posts
Posted on 11/29/23 at 9:56 am to
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Jones's text messages and emails revealed that he was aware that his claims about Sandy Hook were false. In one text message, he wrote, "I was a little bit careless with my words yesterday."

Several of Jones's former employees testified that he instructed them to spread false information about Sandy Hook. One employee said that Jones told him to "make Sandy Hook look like a hoax." Another employee said that Jones told her to "create fake news" about the shooting.

He even admitted to doing so. On multiple occasions, Jones has admitted that he made false statements about Sandy Hook. In one deposition, he said, "I know that some of the things I've said about Sandy Hook have been wrong." In another interview, he said, "I regret some of the things I've said about Sandy Hook."


Most of that doesn't prove he knew his statements were false, although employees testifying to that effect would be evidence of knowingly spreading false information.

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But by all means, please continue to give the benefit of the doubt to him over the families of victims of an elementary school shooting whom he defamed.


I haven't given the benefit of the doubt to anyone, and your "But by all means (insert strawman)" bullshite is getting old. Learn a new tune.

Also, for all I know Jones may be guilty/legally culpable. But if he is, Waters is twice as culpable.

THAT'S my main point for you, which you refuse to engage now that all of your technical loopholes have been exhausted.

So if him falsely reporting on that story and having graves desecrated and one plaintiff yelled at by one nutter at a 5k is worth $1.5 BILLION in pain and suffering, I'd say she owes at least $3B.

So do me a favor and don't reply to me again until/unless you're willing to engage that point. I'm not interested in your obvious strawman bullshite.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28172 posts
Posted on 11/29/23 at 9:58 am to
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Do you think the Sandy Hook families were wronged


What does that have to do with my question? Our tort system is driven by contingency fees and $$$$$. "Right" and "wrong" are so far down the list of factors they're in fine print.
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