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re: Russia on verge of biggest gain in Ukraine since summer
Posted on 1/13/23 at 4:44 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 1/13/23 at 4:44 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:How does unilateral nuclear war turn out?quote:
we are closer to nuclear war than we have been in 60yrs
Unilaterally
Come on SFP!
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Posted on 1/13/23 at 4:45 pm to NC_Tigah
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You'll not find me posting a " " associated with nuclear war ... ever ... no matter how ridiculous the presumption is in getting us there.
Good to know.
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You're like the ufc kid who hears an old braindamaged ex-prizefighter bragging about his exploits back in the day, and taunts him into a barfight.
Nah, I’m the kid who tells both of them that punching other people is a stupid fricking sport that I get zero entertainment from.
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You have a 44 in your pocket as well. So WTF is the risk. Right? The guy is obviously postprime. All he has left are memories and his pride. As you kick his arse, and own his pride, he draws his own pistol and pops you twice dead center in the chest. Last thing you see is the flash. Worth it?
There is zero risk of nuclear escalation to the current conflict. Your pivot to that displays a level of emotional thinking which you haven’t displayed previously. Are you sure SDVTiger didn’t hijack your login credentials?
Posted on 1/13/23 at 4:45 pm to trinidadtiger
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They are still there, even though the forces of the entire Western World are against them. Id say the motherland is the one standing proud right now.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 4:51 pm to NC_Tigah
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How does unilateral nuclear war turn out?
The Japs surrender?
Posted on 1/13/23 at 4:59 pm to StudsonclArkansas
LINK this is an interesting take. Is biden being dumped on because he won't commit troops to ukraine.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 5:18 pm to texas tortilla
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The situation near Artemovsk (Bakhmut) remains difficult for the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and an attempt to improve the situation with the help of mercenaries was also unsuccessful. Moreover, the planning of military operations in this area by the US military led to even greater losses. Now the representatives of the US Army can also be blamed for the collapse of the front in this direction.
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In general, the Americans planned the operation and the Armed Forces of Ukraine went on the offensive, ending in complete defeat.
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It is reported that US representatives miscalculated the situation near Bakhmut and used the Armed Forces of Ukraine incorrectly, without understanding their combat capabilities. If the pace of the advance is maintained, the front of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in this direction may collapse, this can also be attributed to the Americans.
https://en.topwar.ru/206171-front-v-rajone-bahmuta-mozhet-obrushitsja-iz-za-oshibok-amerikanskih-oficerov.html
Posted on 1/13/23 at 5:20 pm to texas tortilla
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this is an interesting take. Is biden being dumped on because he won't commit troops to ukraine.
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What the US needs to do to prevail in its proxy-war with Russia, is to enlist a coalition of nations (US, Poland, Romania, and UK) that are willing to commit combat troops to the conflict with the tacit understanding that NATO will not directly participate in any ground war with Russia.
Seems like a contradiction
Posted on 1/13/23 at 5:20 pm to doubleb
quote:Yes, we actually are.quote:No we are not.
We're told almost daily that Ukraine is kicking Russia's arse.
But in the end this will suck for Ukraine.
Zelinsky was FAR too inexperienced a leader to handle any challenging situation. Much less one as challenging as any war lead-in in a century. He had zero gravitas.
As an ex-comedian who danced in a girl's bodysuit and stilettos, or played piano with his dick, Putin in-turn judged him to be FAR less politically competent than he actually was.
Bad bad bad combination!
I have no doubt Putin underestimated the situation based on Zelinsky and other Ukrainian issues. I have no doubt Putin thought he'd cut Ukraine in half at the Dnipro River. That didn't work out well. I have no doubt Putin realizes he f**k'd up.
Nonetheless, Ukraine isn't going to threaten Moscow. Moscow can obliterate Kiev.
Fair? Nope.
Zelinsky needs to sit with the best negotiators on the planet (assuming they'd all be made available for him .. looking at assholes like Boris Johnson)
This post was edited on 1/13/23 at 5:24 pm
Posted on 1/13/23 at 5:22 pm to NC_Tigah
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How does unilateral nuclear war turn out?
Then Russia gets whatever it wants, whenever it wants, right?
Posted on 1/13/23 at 5:24 pm to NC_Tigah
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Zelinsky needs to sit with the best negotiators on the planet
Russia doesn't negotiate, though. They demand.
And then, like last February, even if the countries acquiesces, Russia will demand more.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 5:28 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Then Russia gets whatever it wants, whenever it wants, right?
Really?
Come on! Mutually ASSURED destruction has no meaning????
At what point would one be willing to give his own life???
Posted on 1/13/23 at 5:28 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Then Russia gets whatever it wants, whenever it wants, right?
Yes. All nations must capitulate to Russia at all times because they have scary nukes
Posted on 1/13/23 at 5:30 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:EVERYone negotiates!
Russia doesn't negotiate
EVERYone!
Posted on 1/13/23 at 5:33 pm to NC_Tigah
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Mutually ASSURED destruction has no meaning
It has never had meaning. That phrase has always been media-created bullshite. Nuclear powers lobbing thousands of missiles at each other has never actually been a realistic possibility.
Eta: It cannot be stated enough that there is zero risk of nuclear escalation in this current conflict.
This post was edited on 1/13/23 at 5:35 pm
Posted on 1/13/23 at 5:46 pm to doubleb
quote:Jesus!quote:The Japs surrender?
How does unilateral nuclear war turn out?
Welcome to nuclear capacity in 1945, doubleb.
Lets perspective that.
The Civil War was as distant to B-29s and the A-Bomb as we are to 1945.
You cannot imagine an undetectable swim up device with a 100-megaton capacity exploding adjacent to the Lincoln Memorial, or in NY harbor, or Boston, or Norfolk, or Charleston, or Savannah, or Miami, or New Orleans, or St Louis, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 5:49 pm to Indefatigable
quote:You are a fricking moronquote:It has never had meaning.
Mutually ASSURED destruction
Posted on 1/13/23 at 5:51 pm to NC_Tigah
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You cannot imagine an undetectable swim up device with a 100-megaton capacity exploding adjacent to the Lincoln Memorial, or in NY harbor, or Boston, or Norfolk, or Charleston, or Savannah, or Miami, or New Orleans, or St Louis, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.
And Putin knows what would happen if he utilized such a weapon.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 5:56 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:"I hope the Russians love their children too"
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Mutually ASSURED destruction
It has never had meaning.
You are a fricking moron
Posted on 1/13/23 at 5:57 pm to Powerman
quote:and what if it is your boys at the CIA, FBI, and DNC are the ones who did it?
And Putin knows what would happen if he utilized such a weapon.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 6:03 pm to NC_Tigah
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You are a fricking moron
Sorry that I don’t still quake in fear over 1970’s buzzphrases.
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