re: Rubio: US Military bases in Europe are useless if we can't use them when we need them

that's why all the weapons and money were provide step by step to Ukraine.
Their corruption is well known, and who are all those ppl? moscow's assets.
The situation is now got much better, because assets are indicated and expels.
The kremlin's lies and propaganda that the poor russ-speaking population is "oppressed" are a blatant lie.
The same as Hitler claimed in 1939 that Germans were "oppressed" in the Sudetenland. It's the same communist deception and methodology.

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Little Marco needs to go back to school and learn that those bases are there for deterrence against NATO members

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Bases in NATO countries are there as a deterrent against NATO members?

It all makes sense now, Bootlick Man

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Rubio: If Europe won’t allow us to use the bases we man and fund for their defense when we need them we ought to close them down and remove our troops from Europe. If they get attacked by Russia we can discuss whether or not we have the time to help.

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Absolutely agree.

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Because diplomacy is a net good regardless.

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Main NATO Allies Involved Here are the key examples based on recent reports: Spain: The most vocal opponent. Spain has closed its airspace to U.S. military flights linked to Iran operations and explicitly denied use of the jointly operated bases at Naval Station Rota and Morón Air Base. Spanish officials, including Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez and Defense Minister Margarita Robles, have described the actions as not in Spain's national interest and limited to NATO's collective defense only (not offensive operations against Iran). Italy: Denied U.S. bombers permission to land at Sigonella Air Base in Sicily en route to the Middle East. Italian officials cited lack of prior authorization or consultation, and Defense Minister Guido Crosetto emphasized that offensive uses require specific approval. Some reports note Italy allows logistical uses under existing treaties but restricts combat-related activities. France: Blocked U.S. military planes carrying weapons/supplies headed to Israel from using French airspace or territory. President Macron's government has drawn lines against facilitating direct support for offensive actions in the conflict. Other Notable Cases United Kingdom: Initially resisted or limited U.S. use of British bases for preemptive strikes on Iran (citing international law concerns), but later allowed limited defensive uses. It has since provided additional support like troops and air defenses. Non-NATO neutrals like Austria and Switzerland have also blocked or heavily restricted overflights, but they are not NATO members. Context on Other AlliesGermany has allowed continued U.S. use of Ramstein Air Base for coordination, drone/missile operations, and logistics, though it has ruled out direct German participation in the war. Turkey (a NATO member) hosts Incirlik Air Base with U.S. personnel, but it is under Turkish command and ownership. There are no widespread reports of Turkey outright denying U.S. use for Iran operations in the same way as the above countries; tensions there have focused more on Iranian threats to the base itself.

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Don’t forget about Romania. IIRC they have said that we can use bases there however we like.

Please bitch.

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This is your retort?

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Yes, diplomacy is a net good for reasons I mentioned earlier. Decidedly, it doesn’t mean that countries can’t be duplicitous or negotiate in bad-faith. Nor does it somehow mean you are automatically Chamberlain. I honestly have no idea how you seem to think ‘diplomacy’ is equal to Chamberlain.

If you're gonna threaten it then do it. Be strategic about it

Worst location
Worst nato ally

Empty threats get old and predictable

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Tell me the “net good” that came from Chamberlain’s diplomacy.

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Delayed UK's entry into the war (as the UK was not ready to fight in 1938) as Chamberlain pursued a policy of rearmament during discussions with Germany, made Hitler's duplicitousness absolutely clear, negotiated pacts with France and Poland after Munich which allowed for UK's entry into the war, restored Churchill to the First Lord of the Admiralty, and the War Cabinet and eventually suggested Churchill replace him as PM to the King instead of Lord Halifax. The UK's early performance in the war reiterates Chamberlain's view (or rather the view of Chamberlain's government) that the UK was not fully prepared at the time of Munich for stopping Germany aspirations.

Again, the net good of diplomacy is that with direct talks, the ultimate positions of governments are made clear. And given how many times Trump flipped flopped during this whole ordeal, coalition-building, getting perspectives other than Netanyahu's (who apparently used a powerpoint to convince Trump of the ease of regime change), the comparison of intelligence reports outside the Five Eyes network, and clear positions statements would have helped. As doing this properly, which the US didn't do, would have required a coalition. Instead we did the worst version of this operation, and given that Trump himself said he think's you can negotiate around Iran's 10-point plan, we are going to end up with something worse than if he had done nothing at all.