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re: Ron Desantis should maybe wait until 2032 to run. The reason? Social security mess

Posted on 11/7/26 at 11:03 am to
Posted by back9Tiger
Island Coconut Salesman
Member since Nov 2005
18343 posts
Posted on 11/7/26 at 11:03 am to
working until you die? Go pound sand.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
64557 posts
Posted on 11/7/26 at 11:05 am to
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The conditions in 2031/2032 will be ripe for someone like Desantis who can run on mismanagement
The problem is no one wants the necessary solution to “fixing” social security.
Posted by Tiger1955
Bossier City
Member since Sep 2007
1136 posts
Posted on 11/7/26 at 11:06 am to
Forget it, a Republican will never win the presidency. Texas will remain blue and get bluer, Cruz will be crushed in his next election. You can probably add MS, NC and SC to the all blue team. This country is no longer a center right country, it’s all left now. We have accept that and make the best of it or go to another country where he fit in.
Posted by WaltWhite504
Member since Sep 2021
2302 posts
Posted on 11/7/26 at 11:12 am to
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Ron Desantis should maybe wait until 2032 to run. The reason?


Trump might not be alive to call him meatball everyday.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
70125 posts
Posted on 11/7/26 at 11:14 am to
None of this is relevant to anyrhing. The voters made it clear this week that they hate freedom.
Posted by armytiger96
Member since Sep 2007
3435 posts
Posted on 11/7/26 at 11:37 am to
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Now tell all of them SS is GONE and you paid your hard earned money in for nothing.

Then you will get the Revolution.


This the correct answer. They need to figure out how to fix it with some transition to privatization similar to the proposed plan Bush presented in 2008.

Posted by lurking
Member since Nov 2022
4435 posts
Posted on 11/7/26 at 11:40 am to
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None of this is relevant to anyrhing. The voters made it clear this week that they hate freedom.


Why are you such a pussy?

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imjustafatkid


Oh. Low T from the obesity. Carry on.
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
42914 posts
Posted on 11/7/26 at 11:42 am to
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None of this is relevant to anyrhing. The voters made it clear this week that they hate freedom.


You are full of terrible takes
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
23261 posts
Posted on 11/7/26 at 11:47 am to
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They should lift the cap dramatically but also shift the tax up the income ladder. Just to pull numbers out of thin air, exempt the first $100,000 of income from the tax and apply the tax to income up to income $500,000. Or, apply the taxes to capital gains above a certain $$$ amount.

You just dropped social security tax revenue by about 80%.


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Democrats are generally well positioned to be the less erratic party voters should trust to fix social security.

If only they could do math.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
34616 posts
Posted on 11/7/26 at 11:55 am to
Desantis will never be president. Texas is lost and the only chance of an (R) president will be some borderline DIM like Younger from VA

No real conservative will win, just like we havent nominated one since Nixon. And dont say Reagan. He saw the greatest rise in deficit spending under any prez in US history. Debt tripled under Reagan. Tripled!! Plus amnesty.
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Looking only at dollar amounts favors recent presidents because the federal budget, economy and existing debt are dramatically larger today than they were decades ago. For example, Ronald Reagan presided over a much smaller dollar increase than today’s presidents, but federal debt roughly tripled during the 1980s.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
61608 posts
Posted on 11/7/26 at 11:56 am to
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Social security

You mean boomer welfare?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
177104 posts
Posted on 11/7/26 at 11:57 am to
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No real conservative will win, just like we havent nominated one since Nixon. And dont say Reagan. He saw the greatest rise in deficit spending under any prez in US history. Debt tripled under Reagan. Tripled!! Plus amnesty.


The idea that conservatives care about fiscal issues is just a myth to get people ideologically aligned with something that simply does not exist
Posted by RammerJammer91
Member since Jan 2016
6176 posts
Posted on 11/7/26 at 12:01 pm to
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Texas is lost


Not true. Trump’s shite economy, the Iran War, and MAGA hand-picking a shite candidate like Paxton who was an anchor for all other Republicans lost Texas.

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the only chance of an (R) president will be some borderline DIM like Younger from VA


Disagree, conservatives can still win. Also, for what it’s worth, Youngkin is more conservative than Trump. He is more conservative on fiscal issues, was actually successful fighting woke (CRT hotline, banning CRT, etc.), and doesn’t think Bruce Jenner is a brave and stunning woman named “Caitlyn.”
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
23261 posts
Posted on 11/7/26 at 12:21 pm to
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The idea that conservatives care about fiscal issues is just a myth to get people ideologically aligned with something that simply does not exist

This isn’t true. You need to make a distinction between conservatives and Republicans.
Posted by BlancoOhNo1776
Gulf Coast but inland
Member since Nov 2026
73 posts
Posted on 11/7/26 at 12:21 pm to
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working until you die? Go pound sand.


I enjoy what I do and could happily work until I die, though that it not what I propose. I’m sorry you were not so blessed.
Posted by lurking
Member since Nov 2022
4435 posts
Posted on 11/7/26 at 12:22 pm to
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Bruce Jenner is a brave and stunning woman named “Caitlyn.”


You’re going to upset the Israel is our greatest ally figs calling you an antisemite with this

They love them some based “Caitlyn”
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s hollow dome
Member since Feb 2009
161388 posts
Posted on 11/7/26 at 12:23 pm to
He needs to wait but not because of social security. But if he waits, I hope he runs for FL governor again instead.

E4PT
This post was edited on 11/7/26 at 12:24 pm
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
85319 posts
Posted on 11/7/26 at 12:28 pm to
Jesse is worried that if Trump doesn't pull out of his funk that the GOP is done.

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Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
75178 posts
Posted on 11/7/26 at 12:34 pm to
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I presume you're talking about completely removing the cap?


Yes, that is the position of many people in the dem party

They want to eliminate the cap but not increase benefits for those earning 180,000+
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
13947 posts
Posted on 11/7/26 at 12:34 pm to
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2) they sign a deal that lifts the cap on social security tax…resulting in a 12.4% tax increase on approximately 11% of upper middle class folks….voters will revolt


How about this idea: The government only increases the tax on the employer’s share of social security taxes. You lift the cap on Social Security taxes to over one million dollars and put the employer’s portion of social security taxes at a flat 15% of wages, bonuses, overtime, and tips.

The other unmitigated disaster is Medicare that dumpster fire is burning money away faster than a California forest fire. Premiums and copays need to be raised and possibly even taxes to right that ship. Not sure if switching traditional Medicare and force everyone into Medicare Advantage plans where the government pays companies a fixed cost per enrollee and let them handle administration of Medicare.
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