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Zero. You can lose, but you can’t get embarrassed if you have more losses than other teams you’re competing with. They got destroyed by Georgia, which eliminated them. If they lost a one score game, things might be different.

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ND lost two close games to top 15 teams.

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They looked bad in both of those games, especially on Defense. They made Marcel Reed, who isn't even that good, look like Johnny Manziel, and they got torched by a true freshman WR and Carson Beck, who isn't anything special.

Auburn lost a bunch of 1 score games to good teams, so should we put them in as well?

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ND would whoop that Gump arse

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I doubt it. They have perhaps the worst kicking situation in the country, their corners outside of Leonard Moore have been bad, and they can't run the ball on 3rd/4th and short.

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Why won't Kiffin leave?

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Because Ole Miss is going to make the playoff, they'll be favored in and likely win their first game, and their season won't end until early January. It would be stupid for the AD's at LSU and Florida to refuse to hire a coach until Ole Miss' season ends. They'd be putting all of their eggs in the Kiffin basket, and if Kiffin stays, they're screwed. It's a very weak pool of coaching options right now, and they run the risk of being left with nothing. At that point, they'd have to settle for someone like James Franklin or promote someone like Frank Wilson that is currently on staff.

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ND under Marcus Freeman is no cream puff. They went tit for tat with arguably the second best team in the country and they lost to a Miami team that when motivated can beat anyone. This ND team would whip Bama convincingly.

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Disagree. I don't think ND's Defense is all that good. People are hyping up their Defense since the A&M game but they've only played 1 team with a pulse since then, and USC shot themselves in the foot with bad play-calling. They got lit up by Marcel Reed, who is very inconsistent, and a true freshman WR from Miami. They also can't run the ball on 3rd and 4th and short. They might have the worst kicking situation in the country as well.

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Haven't seen any of Pitt this year. Do they have a good shot y'all think?

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Yes. They are elite at stopping the run and ND isn’t anything special.

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notre damn WAY too low, no way in hell they don't get an automatic bid simply because they're notre damn

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Pretty good chance they lose to Pitt

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Apparently the early part of the season only counts if your school isn't bama. Good to know.

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Bama has beat UGA and Vandy since the start of the season. Who has ND beat?

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Cheating death against Vandy? It was a 34-10 game in the 4th and we played prevent and just wound the clock. Obviously penalties and blown coverages were problematic but I wouldnt say we "cheated death" in that game, MSU we absolutely cheated death.

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If Vandy recovered that onside kick, there's a good chance they would've marched down the field and scored. They had all of the momentum.

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ND has played three ranked teams and lost to two of them. Their best win is #19 USC.

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Agreed. The ONLY argument I could see is ND lost in the last seconds to the #3 team and the #18 team. They looked awful in both games. Against Miami they needed a bad bounce to go against them and against A&M they lost because the refs missed one of the more blatant holding calls of all time.

I hate that argument, because by that logic, Auburn has played a bunch of ranked teams really close, and they got royally screwed against UGA on the goal-line. But everyone thinks they stink, whereas a lot of people (not me) think that ND is really good.