RammerJammer91

quote:

---

ND would whoop that Gump arse

---

I doubt it. They have perhaps the worst kicking situation in the country, their corners outside of Leonard Moore have been bad, and they can't run the ball on 3rd/4th and short.

quote:

---

Why won't Kiffin leave?

---

Because Ole Miss is going to make the playoff, they'll be favored in and likely win their first game, and their season won't end until early January. It would be stupid for the AD's at LSU and Florida to refuse to hire a coach until Ole Miss' season ends. They'd be putting all of their eggs in the Kiffin basket, and if Kiffin stays, they're screwed. It's a very weak pool of coaching options right now, and they run the risk of being left with nothing. At that point, they'd have to settle for someone like James Franklin or promote someone like Frank Wilson that is currently on staff.

quote:

---

ND under Marcus Freeman is no cream puff. They went tit for tat with arguably the second best team in the country and they lost to a Miami team that when motivated can beat anyone. This ND team would whip Bama convincingly.

---

Disagree. I don't think ND's Defense is all that good. People are hyping up their Defense since the A&M game but they've only played 1 team with a pulse since then, and USC shot themselves in the foot with bad play-calling. They got lit up by Marcel Reed, who is very inconsistent, and a true freshman WR from Miami. They also can't run the ball on 3rd and 4th and short. They might have the worst kicking situation in the country as well.

quote:

---

Haven't seen any of Pitt this year. Do they have a good shot y'all think?

---

Yes. They are elite at stopping the run and ND isn’t anything special.

quote:

---

notre damn WAY too low, no way in hell they don't get an automatic bid simply because they're notre damn

---

Pretty good chance they lose to Pitt

quote:

---

Apparently the early part of the season only counts if your school isn't bama. Good to know.

---

Bama has beat UGA and Vandy since the start of the season. Who has ND beat?

quote:

---

Cheating death against Vandy? It was a 34-10 game in the 4th and we played prevent and just wound the clock. Obviously penalties and blown coverages were problematic but I wouldnt say we "cheated death" in that game, MSU we absolutely cheated death.

---

If Vandy recovered that onside kick, there's a good chance they would've marched down the field and scored. They had all of the momentum.

quote:

---

ND has played three ranked teams and lost to two of them. Their best win is #19 USC.

---

Agreed. The ONLY argument I could see is ND lost in the last seconds to the #3 team and the #18 team. They looked awful in both games. Against Miami they needed a bad bounce to go against them and against A&M they lost because the refs missed one of the more blatant holding calls of all time.

I hate that argument, because by that logic, Auburn has played a bunch of ranked teams really close, and they got royally screwed against UGA on the goal-line. But everyone thinks they stink, whereas a lot of people (not me) think that ND is really good.

quote:

---

When the longhorns defeat Georgia and A&M

---

Texas has been cheating death against Vandy, Kentucky, and MSU. UGA will put the final nail in their coffin.

quote:

---

Texas, oklahoma, or vandy deserve to be in the field currently over ND

---

Agreed, but it doesn't matter. None of those teams will make the playoff as they'll all lose at least 1 more game. Texas will lose to at least 1 of UGA or A&M, OU will lose to Bama, Vandy will lose to Tennessee, and ND will lose to either Navy or Pitt.

quote:

---

Notre Dame is good.

---

Not really. They can't run the ball on 3rd and 4th and short and their Defense is nowhere near as good as last year's. They looked awful against arguably the worst P4 team last week.

quote:

---

The team that was shafted by this was Miami which has already beaten Notre Dame.

---

I think the issue is that was the first game of the season and ND was starting a new QB on the road and both teams look a lot different. I don't think either team is all that good, but Miami has looked awful the last few weeks, whereas ND has looked okay. Nothing special, but okay. I think the committee's logic is based on the directions of each team, if they played next week, ND would win. I'd probably agree. I don't think either team makes the CFP.