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Posted on 4/24/20 at 11:47 am to shel311
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So to confirm, it was a bit premature to crown this drug and say we should just start to give it to every COVID patient? Is that what you're stating?
Not at all, and if that is your take from this your idiocy is re-affirmed.
Posted on 4/24/20 at 11:56 am to Diamondawg
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You can do a search
Check. Well, I don't bother with TD search feature. It worked better 15 years ago.
Posted on 4/24/20 at 12:01 pm to shel311
quote:"This drug" has been used safely for 60 years.
So to confirm, it was a bit premature to crown this drug and say we should just start to give it to every COVID patient?
Is that what you're stating?
The AMA's rationale for issuing an absurd "do not use chloroquine outside of a hospital setting" warning is that "this drug" is suddenly "unsafe".
IMO that was the premature conclusion.
It doesn't surprise me though. The AMA is currently headed by perhaps the lowest IQ and most partisan physician in its entire history. She is afflicted with malignant TDS and does not mind allowing it to influence her "scientific" recommendations.
This post was edited on 4/24/20 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 4/24/20 at 12:01 pm to NC_Tigah
Cannot open link from work, but the quoted section is dealing with chloroquine, not hydroxycholorquine. Which are they actually referring to?
Posted on 4/24/20 at 12:03 pm to BarnHater
TL;DR?
Posted on 4/24/20 at 12:08 pm to Diamondawg
quote:They were one or the other. 99% odds it was hydroxychloroquine rather than chloroquine.
Can't say they were HCQ or just the chloroquin
quote:Correct.
EKGs were never done. That much I do know.
No ECG is absolutely, 100% the routine unless there is some sort of troubling cardiac history. HC is a very safe drug at its normal dosing.
Posted on 4/24/20 at 12:10 pm to McLemore
quote:Starts out talking ventilators
Check. Well, I don't bother with TD search feature. It worked better 15 years ago.
Posted on 4/24/20 at 12:17 pm to NC_Tigah
The media are sick, are workingh for the democrats and the democrats are working for red China and Russia. China and Russia are laughing their asses off at the demoralization and putting illness and death up as long as Trump loses...
Posted on 4/24/20 at 12:23 pm to NC_Tigah
Aren’t chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine two different drugs? Did the CNBC article conflate the two?
Posted on 4/24/20 at 12:27 pm to NC_Tigah
NBC news is no longer a news organization. Total non-stop BS. Sad.
Posted on 4/24/20 at 12:29 pm to NC_Tigah
The recommended normal dose using HCQ
Malaria prevention in Adults: 400mg to 800mg per day. Continued suppressive therapy for 8 weeks after leaving area.
Acute attack of malaria in Adults: 800mg followed by 400mg 6-8 hours later and 400mg on each of 2 consecutive days.
Lupus in adults: 400mg 1-2x daily for several weeks or months. Longer maintenance 200-400mg per day.
Rheumatoid Arthritis in adults: 400-600mg per day. If conditions improve, 200-400mg per day.
Child doses are calculated by weight of the child.
Malaria prevention in Adults: 400mg to 800mg per day. Continued suppressive therapy for 8 weeks after leaving area.
Acute attack of malaria in Adults: 800mg followed by 400mg 6-8 hours later and 400mg on each of 2 consecutive days.
Lupus in adults: 400mg 1-2x daily for several weeks or months. Longer maintenance 200-400mg per day.
Rheumatoid Arthritis in adults: 400-600mg per day. If conditions improve, 200-400mg per day.
Child doses are calculated by weight of the child.
This post was edited on 4/24/20 at 12:31 pm
Posted on 4/24/20 at 12:36 pm to shel311
quote:
So to confirm, it was a bit premature to crown this drug and say we should just start to give it to every COVID patient?
Is that what you're stating?
Some liberals are morons. If I told you that you could take a drug at diagnosis and it would decrease mortality by 25 percent and decrease your risk of hospitalization by same, you would take it, until you found out that trump said the drug could be a game changer.
This study was not stopped. There were two arms to this study, a high dose and normal dose. The question was if the normal dose helps, would a higher dose help more. Well the higher dose caused the side effects everyone talks about which we kinda knew about.
This study may still demonstrate efficacy of hcq.
So here is the question. You just got diagnosed with covid. You can take hcq which may decrease mortality by 25 percent in this study or sixty percent in a smaller Brazilian study, with no negatives besides nausea, or you can take nothing.
What do you do? What do you think the smart choice is?
Posted on 4/24/20 at 12:39 pm to NC_Tigah
Should be sued. Wtf would they deliberately give too much of any drug?
They've had decades worth of hydroxychloroquine research to browse through. Surely there are some studies within that decades worth of information that proves that very high doses can be detrimental.
They've had decades worth of hydroxychloroquine research to browse through. Surely there are some studies within that decades worth of information that proves that very high doses can be detrimental.
This post was edited on 4/24/20 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 4/24/20 at 12:39 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:Just checked with a guy that I went with and he thinks we took Mefloquine. Took for a week prior, during and a few day after return.
Can't say they were HCQ or just the chloroquin
They were one or the other. 99% odds it was hydroxychloroquine rather than chloroquine.
Posted on 4/24/20 at 12:41 pm to NC_Tigah
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touted by President Donald Trump as a potential “game-changer” in the fight against the coronavirus.
Maybe I'm not good at English but I though potential basically meant possible.
Also funny how there's evidence that ventilators might be doing more harm than good, but I've yet to see an article say "treatment touted by Andrew Cuomo".
This post was edited on 4/24/20 at 4:05 pm
Posted on 4/24/20 at 2:06 pm to thetempleowl
quote:Lots of people on both sides and everywhere else are morons, not sure what your point is?
Some liberals are morons.
quote:This is incorrect, stop making shite up. It doesn't make you right, it makes you a person who makes shite up to pretend you're right.
If I told you that you could take a drug at diagnosis and it would decrease mortality by 25 percent and decrease your risk of hospitalization by same, you would take it, until you found out that trump said the drug could be a game changer.
Posted on 4/24/20 at 2:16 pm to NC_Tigah
the fact that our media is willing to push propaganda, even knowing they will hurt people and are risking lives, is alarming
Posted on 4/24/20 at 2:30 pm to IslandBuckeye
quote:Chloroquine. But the reports are that FDA issued an additional statement recommending against hydroxychloroquine use outside the hospital. Sucks if you need it for RA, SLE, or malaria prophylaxis I guess.
Cannot open link from work, but the quoted section is dealing with chloroquine, not hydroxycholorquine. Which are they actually referring to?
SMH.
Just stupid.
Posted on 4/24/20 at 3:00 pm to Diamondawg
quote:Sort of.
When that happens does it lead to an R on T phenomenon followed by V Fib as the actual cause of death?
V-tach really.
The actual concern is initiation of a polymorphic v-tach known as torsades de pointes. TdP can be countershock resistant. It is a sphincter tightener. As far as I could tell, there were no such cases associated with fatality in this study.
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