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re: Report: Hamas notified Columbia student Mahmoud Kahlil of 10/7 attack beforehand

Posted on 3/25/25 at 8:13 am to
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89799 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 8:13 am to
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Because we're for the Constitution, we're "muzzie lovers?" I want Constitutional and legal protections for everyone subject to American law.


bullshite.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476858 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 8:14 am to
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it doesn't cover all forms of expression, and certain speech types are not protected, including incitement to violence, defamation, obscenity, and true threats.


None of those apply to giving racially/ethnically sensitive material to people in that group.

We have a direct case on this. It's one of the ACLU's seminal cases.

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Before the Skokie Affair, Frank Collin and his neo-Nazi group, the NSPA, would regularly hold demonstrations in Marquette Park, where the NSPA was headquartered. However, the Chicago authorities would eventually block these plans by requiring the NSPA to post a $350,000 public safety insurance bond and by banning political demonstrations in Marquette Park.[9][10] While Collin filed a lawsuit against the City of Chicago for a violation of his first amendment rights, he realized that this case would get tied up in the courts for far longer than he was willing to wait to begin marching again.[11]

On October 4, 1976, Collin sent out letters to the park districts of the North Shore suburbs of Chicago, requesting permits for the NSPA to hold a white power demonstration.[11][12] While some suburbs chose to ignore their letter, Skokie—home to a significant number of Jewish people, many of them survivors of the Holocaust[13]—chose to respond.[14] At first, the Skokie mayor and Village Council intended to allow the NSPA to demonstrate; the village's tactic was to ignore them, in order to give the NSPA as little publicity as possible.[15][16] The Jewish community found this unacceptable and held meetings throughout the month of April to discuss the matter. The mayor and the Village Council heard their concerns and on April 27, 1977, ordered village attorney, Harvey Schwartz, to seek an injunction.[16]

In addition to filing an injunction, the Village of Skokie passed three ordinances on May 2, 1977 in an attempt to prevent all future events that would be like the march which the NSPA had requested permission to stage.[17] One states that people could not wear military-style uniforms during demonstrations.[18][19] The two other ordinances prohibited the distribution of material containing hate speech and a required a $350,000 insurance bond to hold a demonstration.[19][20] These ordinances rendered it impossible for the NSPA to be able to hold the event.[18]


Spoiler alert: the Nazis were allowed to march
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476858 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 8:14 am to
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Because we're for the Constitution, we're "muzzie lovers?"

Yeah, we're back in the GWB War on Terror political purity landscape.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89799 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 8:16 am to
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The trespassing? Probably.


Which some were arrested for.

Others were for obstructing.

Same as J6.


So now, are you going to say what was done to J6 was wrong? Or are you going to stick with they committed crimes?

Which would mean some of the demonstrators at Columbia also committed crimes.


It’s also a felony to incite a riot. Going around telling people trying to incite people to do harm against a person or property.


You should know that Mr lawman.
This post was edited on 3/25/25 at 8:20 am
Posted by VOR
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
68825 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 8:18 am to
That’s some flimsy evidence of prior knowledge. And it’s absurd to think a student at Columbia would be aware of Hamas’s plan. It’s ridiculous. Hamas would not divulge that information.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
39659 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 8:20 am to
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Hamas would not divulge that information.


Do they plan their attacks on group chats with random people in it?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476858 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 8:20 am to
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Which some were arrested for.

Others were for obstructing.

Same as J6.

Neither have anything to do with the 1A/speech.

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So now, are you going to say what was done to J6 was wrong? Or are you going to stick with they committed crimes?

They committed crimes.

The 1A has no applicability to what those during J6 who rioted, acted violently, etc. did. Nobody was arrested for illegal speech.

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Which would mean some of the demonstrators at Columbia also committed crimes.


Sure, probably. Has nothing to do with the 1A and their speech.

You're all over the place now, so I'll just re-post the post starting this digression

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Going into classrooms, like Israeli history, and handing out flyers that say things like crush the Jews is not protected free speech.


(emphasis added)
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476858 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 8:21 am to
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Do they plan their attacks on group chats with random people in it?


Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98114 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 8:22 am to
Didnt you say that Kamala would win in a landslide?
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 8:22 am to
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On information and belief,
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In legal terms, this is the opposite of "smoking gun evidence"

”I have absolutely no evidence of this, but someone told me that it is true.”
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28143 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 8:25 am to
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Do they plan their attacks on group chats with random people in it?


No, but they did have hundreds of 85 IQ foot soldiers participating in the attack with cellphones.

Not hard to imagine someone with connection to those rapists getting notified right before.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
39691 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 8:25 am to
Hegseth should just communicate personally with Israel/Mossad of this with a 'wink and nod' and let them handle it. No paper trail. A highly publicized 'accidental' death would send a strong message to those terrorists who hide behind our Constitutional Rights. They would do the same thing to Amercian rivals if the opportunity arises. They are sophisticated, sociopathic heathens.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
20205 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 8:30 am to
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We are back!!” could be referring to anything and could reasonably be bad timing.


Very true but the various so called organic student groups are tactics no different than our USAID color revolutions. These are being funded by Iran, Qatar and Muslim Brotherhood in an attempt to impact public perception in the short-run and US foreign policy in the long-run.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
39691 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 8:32 am to
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These are being funded by Iran, Qatar and Muslim Brotherhood i


I.e./via USAID to be more concise.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 8:32 am to
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Let’s test your theory. Go to mcneese, find a black history class, and go in there saying crush the blacks.
It would be free speech under the First.

and it would probably send emotional children into hysterics.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 8:35 am to
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it’s absurd to think a student at Columbia would be aware of Hamas’s plan. It’s ridiculous. Hamas would not divulge that information.
He was not just a “student at Columbia.“ He was on the Hamas ruling council.
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
32257 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 8:37 am to
Take the L dude
Posted by JackaReaux
BR
Member since Feb 2017
1021 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 8:37 am to
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He was not just a “student at Columbia.“ He was on the Hamas ruling council.


Can you provide a source? Can’t find anything on google
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10132 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 8:43 am to
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bullshite.


You're as bad as what you accuse Leftists of being...just believing what you want regardless of evidence.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
39691 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 8:44 am to
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He was not just a “student at Columbia.“ He was on the Hamas ruling council.



And before Oct. 7 that would not have been a total moral disqualifier, as a lot still viewed Haman/'Palestinians' as engaged in a legit fight for their 'Nation'. Hamas showed the extent of their Evil-based delusion and psychopathic insanity on Oct. 7. Honestly, I think they would like to have a mulligan on that one. Albeit instilling racial hatred into their children from birth cannot be fixed.
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