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re: Reopen the Strait and quit playing along with Iran’s talk-talk stall
Posted on 5/12/26 at 9:55 am to CastleBravo
Posted on 5/12/26 at 9:55 am to CastleBravo
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The strait is open for non iranian ships.
how many ships are passing through today?
doesnt seem like many considering WTI is $102/bbl and Brent is $108/bbl right now
This post was edited on 5/12/26 at 9:56 am
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 10:02 am to WeeWee
quote:I don't think we have to seize or control the coastline. They have enough to Somali-threaten commercial shipping but not with our patrols, which are killing Iranians who are forced to man the small boats.
I agree but how would we do that short of sending in troops to seize the Iranian coastline?
There is NO way they can be of any real threat 30 miles off their own coast, certainly not with our constant satellite surveillance; supplemented by warships, w/ rotary and fixed wing aircraft.
I suspect it is the shipping companies who are not wanting to risk movement (or insurance writers behind them). With our military might and proven passage, we should be able to force the trapped ships to move on out of the conflict zone; and additionally, provide protection for those who wish to enter the strait for foreign ports, other than Iran.
Others suggest it is putting pressure on China, I'm certain it is but no one knows how much.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 10:12 am to Burt Reynolds
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And you and your sons should be on the front line of that
I've done my time. You're welcome.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 11:06 am to captainFid
quote:The China meeting takes priority. After the summit, if Iran still is stalling, I suspect it could get very bad for anyone living within Hormozgan province. Their water supply is tenuous and targetable, as are the region's powerplants.
Full opinion is worth the read.
Somewhere we've forgotten the COMPLETE, IMMEDIATE and SAFE OPENING part.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 11:13 am to captainFid
Bridge and power plant day would open the strait much quicker.
Putting Michael Corleone in charge of the music and negotiating would be conducive to getting those sand diggers more agreeable.
Putting Michael Corleone in charge of the music and negotiating would be conducive to getting those sand diggers more agreeable.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 11:18 am to Hangit
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If tweet fails to load, click here. President Trump announces oil and gas companies have informed him they're 100% DITCHING the Strait of Hormuz — and are picking Texas, USA instead
They like going through US better.
Imagine that.
"We've become very big on the filling station. We're a big filling station. And what's happening is, when this first, when people heard about losing Hormuz, they said, oh, this is, it's genius."
"They're finding other locations. And some of those people, I spoke to companies in countries. Some of those people are going to continue to go to Texas."
"They like it better. They said, it's an extra 45 minutes. They like it better. And it's sort of amazing, you know, it found its way."
"So a lot of people thought oil would go to $250, $300. It's not. I mean, today it's at less than a hundred."
"Think of that. Now, when this ends, you're going to see a drop like a rock."
Posted on 5/12/26 at 11:21 am to LemmyLives
Barbarossa was done over a wide open expanse. This is more like trying to take a larger version of Iwo Jim and if we did it now it would be like taking a larger version of Iwo Jim in the middle of the hottest part of the year with the enemy controlling all of the high ground.
This post was edited on 5/12/26 at 11:32 am
Posted on 5/12/26 at 12:14 pm to Jimmy Russel
quote:So the strategy is to intentionally allow one of the most important shipping chokepoints on earth to remain disrupted?
The street isn’t open because we are cutting off China’s oil. Anything else is stupid
How does that hurt China without also hurting the US, our allies, and the global economy through higher oil prices, shipping costs, insurance rates, manufacturing disruption, and inflation? China is not some isolated target floating in space. The global economy is interconnected.
And if the US starts accepting the closure or destabilization of major maritime trade routes instead of keeping them open, what exactly happens to the entire post-WWII naval and trade system we built and depend on ourselves?
“Anything else is stupid” ignores that there are multiple strategic priorities in play besides simply “hurt China.” The US also has to consider global energy stability, allied economies, freedom of navigation, credibility with trading partners, avoiding direct regional escalation, and maintaining the broader maritime network that underpins global commerce in the first place.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 12:20 pm to theballguy
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I've done my time. You're welcome.
Many of us have. Strange that even after "doing it", you would be quick to send more kids over there to "do it again".
Posted on 5/12/26 at 3:17 pm to captainFid
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I don't think we have to seize or control the coastline. They have enough to Somali-threaten commercial shipping but not with our patrols, which are killing Iranians who are forced to man the small boats. There is NO way they can be of any real threat 30 miles off their own coast, certainly not with our constant satellite surveillance; supplemented by warships, w/ rotary and fixed wing aircraft. I suspect it is the shipping companies who are not wanting to risk movement (or insurance writers behind them). With our military might and proven passage, we should be able to force the trapped ships to move on out of the conflict zone; and additionally, provide protection for those who wish to enter the strait for foreign ports, other than Iran. Others suggest it is putting pressure on China, I'm certain it is but no one knows how much.
Shipping companies are not going to risk it as long as Iran has the ability to launch missiles, drones, or artillery at ships. The only way to completely take away that capability from Iran is to take the coast line away from them.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 3:32 pm to UtahCajun
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Into Iran proper? Seriously? You ready for that many casualties?
You are fighting the last war, actually the one before that. How many casualties did we have in Afghanistan? Technology has widened the gap between militaries like Iran’s and the USA. We would not go in with massive forces, just small tactical forces that suppress Iran’s military when it shows itself. We would not have many casualties.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 4:16 pm to Penrod
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You are fighting the last war, actually the one before that. How many casualties did we have in Afghanistan?
A war in Iran would not be like Afganistan or even Iraq. Unlike A-Stan, Iran has a large, well trained, well equipped ground force. Unlike Iraq, Iran's forces are willing to fight us and have been preparing for this for 30 years. With their battlefield drone tactics, it would look much like Russia/Ukraine. Are we ready for that?
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We would not go in with massive forces, just small tactical forces that suppress Iran’s military when it shows itself.
Then we would accomplish nothing of note.
This post was edited on 5/12/26 at 4:18 pm
Posted on 5/12/26 at 4:17 pm to captainFid
Send a joint Special Ops brigade to over take KARG ISLAND and then you will have the leverage. Start sending in small arms to citizen militia leaders —- let the Iranians fight the street battles for their freedom.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 4:41 pm to captainFid
Trump will do whatever Israel tells him.. That's a fact
Posted on 5/12/26 at 4:45 pm to UtahCajun
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You do realize China gets the overwhelming bulk of their oil from Russia, Malaysia and Brazil right?
Define “overwhelming.”
99%?
95%?
90%%
Because if it isn’t above 90%, then at some point, they are going to feel it (even if they had massive oil reserves to start with).
Posted on 5/12/26 at 5:05 pm to UtahCajun
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Instead of cease-fire, we should have sent the troops in
Into Iran proper? Seriously? You ready for that many casualties? Sending troops into Iran is a logistical nightmare.
Maybe before March it would've been. We and Israel have done some serious work on the IRGC since this started. UAE and Saudi Arabia are able to strike deep within Iran at will right now, with 3rd-ish generation fighters. There is practically no resistance other than Iran lobbing missiles back at their mainland.
Iran's "big plan" was to send 4... FOUR... guys to attack a US base, destroy radars, and take prisoners in Kuwait. Four whole dudes. And they got caught and arrested pretty much immediately. You can't tell me that they wouldn't have sent hundreds if they actually had the means and people available.
Iran is trying to hit skyscraper-sized tankers and hardened destroyers with bass boats and AK47s in the Strait. Meanwhile our 4th Gen F18s are able to linger and line up cannon shots against their tankers' engine rooms, with no resistance from Iran.
We were able to land giant 100+ foot wingspan propeller planes in the middle of their country, with it's second largest city being only a handful of miles away, and create a temporary base and runway out of nothing. We fought off the couple hundred IRGC that tried to encroach and didn't lose a single soldier. The mud and sand put up a better resistance than IRGC. We were able to do this to retrieve a single guy that their entire force was searching for.
There's large swaths of southern Iran where we could easily take foothold and the majority of civilians would be on our side. Once you've got a base of operations set up close by and can operate out of it while resupplying right there on the spot, it would be easy pickings. There's been several instances that prove the IRGC is much, much weaker than they or the leftist media is letting on.
They can't even set up their own street level checkpoints without fear of a drone or airstrike coming along.
I'm not in favor of US boots on the ground, but it wouldn't be some bloodbath or "logistics nightmare." We have a constant air bridge of dozens of cargo planes going as we speak, nonstop.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 5:12 pm to theballguy
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I've done my time.
I believe you
Posted on 5/12/26 at 6:36 pm to hubertcumberdale
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how many ships are passing through today?
doesnt seem like many considering WTI is $102/bbl and Brent is $108/bbl right now
Wow its back up over $100? Oil revenue checks are going to be lit.
I guess if countries want lower oil prices they can help protect ships transiting the open strait.
If they are not helping, then obviously they want the higher oil prices.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 6:41 pm to UtahCajun
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Unlike A-Stan, Iran has a large, well trained, well equipped ground force.
Most of which would be on our side.
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it would look much like Russia/Ukraine.
No it wouldn’t. Their drones would be useless against forces the positions of which they don’t even know. The US would not have battle lines with Iran, as Russia has with Ukraine. The US would slice through the Iranian forces in two or three days. The only way for Iranian troops to stay alive would be to join us or go underground.
With the IRGC underground, the regular army would be turned and would be hunting the IRGC in their hideouts.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 7:22 pm to CastleBravo
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Wow its back up over $100? Oil revenue checks are going to be lit. I guess if countries want lower oil prices they can help protect ships transiting the open strait. If they are not helping, then obviously they want the higher oil prices.
Agreed, the strait of Hormuz is not open
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