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re: Reopen the Strait and quit playing along with Iran’s talk-talk stall

Posted on 5/12/26 at 8:48 am to
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 8:48 am to
If one boogeyman isn’t working go find another (China). If anyone thinks this sloppy disorganized mess was to get at China they are living in another reality.
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 8:49 am to
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It is enough to last for months and months if disruptions in imports occur.



china has about 100 days of reserves in storage - if they haven't already started tapping into
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 8:51 am to
Bait and switch on this since the cease-fire.

Iran says they are willing to negotiate, and 100% knowing what we will accept, they return their list a few days later, and concede nothing.

The Threat level on our an Israel’s end escalates..

Iran says they are willing to negotiate.


Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
7271 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 8:52 am to
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Trump knows what he is doing and the reasons why.


It appears Trump and his montley crew have absolutely zero clue what they are doing and also don’t even know the reason why or can articulate what the entire point of this “war” is
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 8:53 am to
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china has about 100 days of reserves in storage - if they haven't already started tapping into


Says who?
Posted by cadillacattack
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Member since May 2020
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 9:05 am to

Trump is creating leverage.

Xi wants Iran to be able service its sovereign debt (Belt & Road)

it will be interesting to see the results of this weeks US -China delegation

Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 9:06 am to
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china has about 100 days of reserves in storage - if they haven't already started tapping into


What I just read(after Sentinel told me about my search I hadn't made yet), stated that they have spent 2024 and 2025 building and filling storage capacity and that final capacity figures were sketchy at best.

100 days may be accurate AFAIK. Are we ready for 100 days of this?
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
32721 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 9:10 am to
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Says who?


I’ve seen 120 days of cover based on a 1,400 Mb total inventory so that seems in the ballpark.
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
7271 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 9:20 am to
Sure but China produces oil (~4.5mmbpd) and also buys oil from countries not constrained by the strait of Hormuz

This post was edited on 5/12/26 at 9:22 am
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 9:25 am to
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The street isn’t open because we are cutting off China’s oil. Anything else is stupid


Dumb comment.
Posted by Burt Reynolds
Monterey, CA
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 9:27 am to
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Instead of cease-fire, we should have sent the troops in.


And you and your sons should be on the front line of that
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
32721 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 9:27 am to
They aren’t drawing from it now. As I understand they have been adding to it during the war.
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 9:27 am to
10-4 that’s what I was confused about, on the same page
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 9:28 am to
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just have a hard time understanding why we aren't just providing escort (and forcing traffic, if needed) out of a conflict zone.


Optics of them getting lucky and damaging one ship isn’t worth the trade for a few more weeks of it being closed.

The average driver in America is feeling about a Starbucks a day difference due to gas prices. Yes, it sucked this morning when it took $142 to fill my truck, but it’s not the end of the world.


Plus, I think Trump is allowing the stall to get some new bombs delivered. Iran will either agree or go boom soon.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5426 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 9:38 am to
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Not really. It's 160 miles from at least four allies' territory, and it's not like every branch of the military doesn't have a logistics crew that plans for ... exactly shite like this.

It's not Operation Barbarossa


The fighting in Russia was much more symmetrical than anything we would see in Iran. Iran has prepared for this for over 30 years. It is how they built their military. We think we did something by taking out their navy and their airforce. The navy was about a dozen true fighting vessels and all were small. The airforce did not have the nickname "fighting museum" for no reason. No, they have invested totally into defensive ground forces, drones and missiles.

Overall, much more difficult than Iraq or A-Stan ever was. We would suffer enormous casualties.
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