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re: Regrettably, the "Sadly, I will be Forced to Vote For Biden" Crowd is back on the PT.

Posted on 6/20/24 at 2:29 pm to
Posted by This GUN for HIRE
Member since May 2022
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Posted on 6/20/24 at 2:29 pm to
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Lsupimpology




Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47575 posts
Posted on 6/20/24 at 2:40 pm to
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A significant part of Trump’s base is those who didn’t go to college. He loves the “poorly educated” for a reason.


The vast majority of AAs dont attend college either. Are they missing out on the cultural enrichment of Sneakerology 101 and the Queers for Palestine rallies in the Quad?

Are they also worthy of your disdain?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476856 posts
Posted on 6/20/24 at 2:43 pm to
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So you understand the cognitive dissonance in believing that media narrative about MAGA voters all being low IQ rednecks?

You need to go re-read what I actually said.

My decision not to vote for Trump has nothing to do with MAGA-Patriots and everything to do with Trump's anti-capitalism policies and the pro-evangelism that follows him.

I was not discussing my choices or opinions, ITT.

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I seriously can't tell if you're just trying to explain how libs on the coasts think

I'm explaining how intelligent, educated professionals from LA that I know think
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59466 posts
Posted on 6/20/24 at 2:45 pm to
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Going to Yale and Virginia is considered being poorly educated now?


Yikes. His post went right over your head. Perhaps you’re not the correct person to be calling people poorly educated.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
86171 posts
Posted on 6/20/24 at 2:57 pm to
I have three, one in grad school in Chicago and two undergrads at State U.

Hayak is THE OG.

What I enjoy are critiques of The Left. From the original moment I compared and contrasted The French Revolution with The American Revolution, I knew that one was virtuous and the other consumed by the madness of The Mob.

I will always and forever defend the common man. Men, of course, as Buckley liked to say are not angels. But Free men are the most virtuous of men because they have the most to gain and the most to lose.

I am immediately repelled by lazy condescending "redneck" comments about people who work for a living. There is not some kind of innate virtue that being formally educated bestows, and in fact now, it is quite possibly the opposite. It seems that our worst bumper sticker sloganeers that are destroying The West in earnest were hatched in academia. And obviously, the corrupt and Kleptocratic State has the FULL support of academia. Taking pot shots as you did with me, at common people who have led exemplary lives of service to others, is a common tactic of the Left. You should know better.

The ideas that are destroying America's best traditions, principles, ideals and Institutions did not come from conversations boilermakers and machinists had over beers after work.

Trump is a dick. But he also has a touch of absolute brilliance in these times. That's why I told this board in February of 2011 that he might someday be our President and that it would make the establishment apoplectic. Because he would dismantle the alter to themselves at which they worship.

He has a strong message. American Aspirational Culture in the face of the oppositions planned American Declinism. His instincts are EXCELLENT even if he expresses them poorly and has never read political philosophy in his life. His four years are proof of this. His second term will be as a cultural Disruptor. and an opportunity to roll back some of the Cultural Marxism that has turned this country into an embarrassment of moral idiocy.

Buckley was an intellectual. He loved Reagan and Limbaugh, and he would love Trump on a staving off Collectivist Rot basis. We either make alliances and we fight for our culture, or we descend further into Leftist political and cultural primitivism. It is odd that Trump would be leading our charge, and we wish it were a Reaganesque figure, but alas it is not. Stay and fight or run for the hills. We don't need you. But it would be nice to have you.



This post was edited on 6/20/24 at 3:09 pm
Posted by sonuvapitcher
Member since Aug 2008
2131 posts
Posted on 6/20/24 at 2:58 pm to
You would have to be a special kind of stupid and a vompleye moron to vote for Biden. Especially if it is your 2nd time to do so. He is a corrupt AF cadaver and took inappropriate showers with his teenaged daughter. He is verified evil. If you think Trump is evil too and you don’t want to vote for him, don’t. Vote for RFK or West.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 6/20/24 at 3:38 pm to
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Going to Yale and Virginia is considered being poorly educated now?


Your ability to understand my point is almost nonexistent.

I used Sheila Jackson Lee as an example of an individual who is supposedly highly educated but is, by every objectively measurable metric, a complete fricking dumbass.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
143817 posts
Posted on 6/20/24 at 3:45 pm to
Sounds like DavidTheRedditGnome.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37564 posts
Posted on 6/20/24 at 4:39 pm to
You do realize that by your own admission you support higher education and put a value on " book learning". There is of course in the far reaches of academia and the "elites" a disdain for flyover country and the rubes that inhabit it....educated or not. One of the smartest persons I ever knew came from Plaquemine, LA....he was a physician and an intellectual who could recite many of the classics....knew Summa Theologica almost verbatim. Well regarded by his peers, etc. Except he spoke with that accent ....so a rube even when he guest lectured at Harvard Medical School .
I can assure you the disdain is more cultural than academic.

But I don't necessarily see the common man as any more (or less) virtuous than the elite as a whole. The elite may understand things in a different way than the common. By the way Pimp, in me you are dealing with a smart-arse born of a long line of smart asses and when you open yourself up and I'm in the mood and I have an abundance of free time....like today. I'm going for the easy shot.

I have learned to not like Trump and a lot of MAGA, because in my estimation and evaluation, he is what I call a dicktripper. I grew up in a family of cops (NOPD & JPSO) and the one thing they could not stand were guys who made their moves without realizing that they were the frick up because they make themselves needless targets...Trump does that and he does it over and over again. So that makes him not smart....not stupid or dumb, but not smart. In a past life, I was an attorney, and the thing that drove me crazy is when a Junior Associate would do 90% of the homework and then get their arse handed to them because the other attorney exploited the 10% that was not finished or overlooked. Trump does not finish his homework and for me it makes him a liability.

I think the Democrats feign apoplectic on Trump. For them he plays right into their plans
He got lucky with his competition in 2016. In 2020 he merely had a competent organization opposing him who used Covid to manipulate the game. However. I don't see Trump as promoting an aspirational vibe. I see him promoting a victims vibe.

I still take issue with your assumption that Buckley would like Trump. Buckley was always on guard against crazies in the conservative movement and always advocated ( quietly) that they be neutralized and minimized. Trump attracts crazies in the movement and repels the establishment Republicans that he NEEDS in DC . I don't think Buckley would approve or like that for the conservative movement ( little c intended).

I'm not a fan in the least of Biden. He's full of shite and has been at least since 1988 when I attended a talk he had at Tulane Law. But, saying that, he is not a serial dictripper like Trump. He has competent people working for him on staff in an operational capacity. I'm not talking Cabinet level, but his advisors and strategists.....who answer to Obama and they can keep him from making really stupid mistakes that are ego driven and just not smart.

So yeah, I'm not for Trump this go round, I'm for the Republicans though and since I'm in LA I can have the luxury of abstaining voting for President.


Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
55739 posts
Posted on 6/20/24 at 4:51 pm to
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I have learned to not like Trump and a lot of MAGA, because in my estimation and evaluation, he is what I call a dicktripper. I grew up in a family of cops (NOPD & JPSO) and the one thing they could not stand were guys who made their moves without realizing that they were the frick up because they make themselves needless targets...Trump does that and he does it over and over again. So that makes him not smart....not stupid or dumb, but not smart. In a past life, I was an attorney, and the thing that drove me crazy is when a Junior Associate would do 90% of the homework and then get their arse handed to them because the other attorney exploited the 10% that was not finished or overlooked. Trump does not finish his homework and for me it makes him a liability.


Eventually you too will understand this America First/MAGA movement is not Trump's movement, Trump just happened to be the only one with enough balls to push back against the D.C. Uniparty Globalists and the Cultural Marxists, so he gets some deserved respect from America First/MAGA types.

As I've said numerous times on this forum, a lot of Trump supporters/voters don't particularly like him but until somebody else is ready to take on the D.C. Uniparty Globalists and their Cultural Marxist partners......I guess it will be Trump for now.
This post was edited on 6/20/24 at 6:32 pm
Posted by JackieTreehorn
Member since Sep 2013
35576 posts
Posted on 6/20/24 at 4:51 pm to
They need to strap on a set of gourds but they are too emasculated and gone.
Posted by RFK
Mar-a-Lago
Member since May 2012
3177 posts
Posted on 6/20/24 at 4:56 pm to
I have voted for Trump in the past but cannot pull the lever for him this time.

My biggest gripes since he took office in 2016:

1. Supported masks and business closures.

2. Pardoned 3 military war criminals as well as vocally supported Eddie Gallagher.

3. He’s a convicted felon himself who cannot legally own a firearm or vote.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
42372 posts
Posted on 6/20/24 at 5:07 pm to
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He presided over one of the largest increases in the national debt in US history. Is that running the country well?


Better than having to speak Spanish.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
19485 posts
Posted on 6/20/24 at 5:09 pm to
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I have voted for Trump in the past but cannot pull the lever for him this time.

My biggest gripes since he took office in 2016:

1. Supported masks and business closures.

2. Pardoned 3 military war criminals as well as vocally supported Eddie Gallagher.

3. He’s a convicted felon himself who cannot legally own a firearm or vote.


Are you voting for Biden? If you're posting in this thread I can only guess you are.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37564 posts
Posted on 6/20/24 at 5:21 pm to
Trump is the movement and it dies with him overall . He loses this time and MAGA starts to fade and as such this country goes back to what you refer to as the Uniparty. It's not sustainable for the fact that it is too disorganized and too reliant on his personality. Besides, globalism is dying right now albeit slowly....the US won we just don't want to claim the victory. The "Cultural Marxists" will end up being like Marx himself, tied to middle class mores ultimately ( Read up on Marx, the man) .

Trump thought he was a member of an elite class and while he rails against the swamp, wants desperately to be a denizen.....the top denizen if he can achieve it. That's been his whole life. He was never considered a Manhattan kind of guy., but did everything possible to be part of that world...even being a Democrat when being one served his goals.
Posted by RFK
Mar-a-Lago
Member since May 2012
3177 posts
Posted on 6/20/24 at 6:30 pm to
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Are you voting for Biden? If you're posting in this thread I can only guess you are.
No. Third party this election.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 6/20/24 at 6:35 pm to
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My biggest gripes since he took office in 2016: 1. Supported masks and business closures. 2. Pardoned 3 military war criminals as well as vocally supported Eddie Gallagher. 3. He’s a convicted felon himself who cannot legally own a firearm or vote.


Lol so you’d rather Biden get it who

1. Sold out our country
2. Molested his daughter
3. Has made the economy worse

Boy you’re a brainiac and principled man.
Posted by TigerChick2018
Mobile, AL
Member since Jun 2018
393 posts
Posted on 6/20/24 at 6:36 pm to
Are you of the belief Donald Trump was a bad President? If so, please list specific policies enacted that make you believe this.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 6/20/24 at 6:38 pm to
He can’t
Posted by TigerChick2018
Mobile, AL
Member since Jun 2018
393 posts
Posted on 6/20/24 at 6:44 pm to
And we all know “if you don’t vote for Biden then “you ain’t black”. And we all know Blacks are not capable of taking care of themselves, or succeeding without the help of those caring white liberals. Heck, they can’t even get voter ID, poor little ignorants.

GMAFB.
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