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re: Red States Pressured To Expand Medicaid As Care Contrasts Emerge
Posted on 8/10/14 at 7:30 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Posted on 8/10/14 at 7:30 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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If the fed gov changes the percentage they'll pay, it won't be pretty in some states.
Would anybody conduct a business deal this way?
Any governor who signed on to this deal with the Feds, is not serving the people of his state well.
Unless he thinks the Feds will somehow bail his state out. Kind of a "too big to fail" state government style.
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Posted on 8/10/14 at 7:51 pm to Layabout
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frick no. They better not. They'd be fricking their states in the long run.
Better to let the poor people die in the streets, right? They're just leeches anyway.
Can't contribute anything of substance?
Posted on 8/10/14 at 8:25 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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that are economically dying. The lack of healthcare in the hollers is a symptom of economic uselessness. Subsidizing unproductive areas with massive amounts of medicaid spending is not good policy, and does not encourage holler people to move where their labor is needed.
Medicaid sucks. That's why nobody takes it. shite, here in Arkansas Medicaid pays HALF what Medicare does and Medicare Pays HALF of what BCBS does. And they limit visits to twelve a year. They say they'll extend benefits but they never do. And you're getting people in your office you don't want in your office.
More people on Medicaid is not a win. It's the worst fricking outcome.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 8:48 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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A report last week from The Robert Wood Johnson Foundation-funded Urban Institute said states that haven’t expanded will “miss out” on more than $420 billion in federal dollars between now and 2022. I
Since the federal government is running a seemingly insurmountable deficit, it would seem that it is non-compliant states who are actually serious about reducing the deficit.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 9:13 pm to SmackoverHawg
quote:In your office;true. But half pay is better than no pay for hospital EDs and inpatients if they were no pay(self-pay) with zero collections prior to expansion.
Medicaid sucks. That's why nobody takes it.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 9:17 pm to Layabout
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Better to let the poor people die in the streets, right?
So wait....they were dying the streets everywhere before the expansion?
Posted on 8/10/14 at 9:24 pm to udtiger
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frick no. They better not. They'd be fricking their states in the long run.
How so?
Posted on 8/10/14 at 9:49 pm to inelishaitrust
quote:It may not seem like a lot to you, but 10% of the tab will have to be paid by the state. In a state like Mississippi, with all the health problems, that is an extremely large amount of money.
How so?
And, like others have said, medicaid is not a good insurance to have. Most medicaid patients do not have primary care doctors has it is a nightmare trying to find one.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 9:51 pm to Diamondawg
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In your office;true. But half pay is better than no pay for hospital EDs and inpatients if they were no pay(self-pay) with zero collections prior to expansion.
This assumes that people only use medical services when they need to. That's an obviously false assumption. "Free" healthcare drives up utilization. If a person uses the ED 4 times for "half pay" instead of using it one time with no pay, the hospital is worse off from a profit standpoint in the first instance.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 12:51 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Is medicaid really the best we can offer poor people?
Of course not. We should just get rid of medicaid and let the free market take care of it. That means they won't actually have any health insurance but frick em, we got ours, they're poor who gives a shite?
This post was edited on 8/11/14 at 12:52 am
Posted on 8/11/14 at 12:52 am to udtiger
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frick no. They better not. They'd be fricking their states in the long run.
Poor people going to doctors isn't definitely something to be afraid of. We shouldn't stand for it. Really what has this world come to?
Posted on 8/11/14 at 6:23 am to SpidermanTUba
You know how I know you're stupid?
Posted on 8/11/14 at 7:20 am to Poodlebrain
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I did notice that Mr. Fetter said that emergency department visits increased. It seems that Medicaid beneficiaries still resort to the emergency room for their primary care despite Obamacare sponsors claims they would be reduced
I work in healthcare. Emergency rooms have been treated as primary care long before ACA came along and that's not going to change. It's just a part of the culture of the people that are using ER's for primary care and that's not going to change. All this thing will be is another way to expand a government handout to people taking advantage of the system. And guess who gets to pay for it???
Posted on 8/11/14 at 7:41 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
I laughed at this before and will again. Red states just intentionally making things worse for their residents with their full support. 
Posted on 8/11/14 at 7:43 am to SpidermanTUba
quote:Most intelligent thin you have ever said.
We should just get rid of medicaid and let the free market take care of it.
Ever
Posted on 8/11/14 at 7:45 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
So cute.Posted on 8/11/14 at 8:21 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
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I laughed at this before and will again. Red states just intentionally making things worse for their residents with their full support.
Funny you use the word "residents" instead of "taxpayers."
Posted on 8/11/14 at 8:47 am to SpidermanTUba
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Of course not. We should just get rid of medicaid and let the free market take care of it. That means they won't actually have any health insurance but frick em, we got ours, they're poor who gives a shite?
I know right. All those poor people in Central America and Africa. We should pay for them too!
It isn't fair that America has good healthcare while the rest of the world doesn't!
This post was edited on 8/11/14 at 8:50 am
Posted on 8/11/14 at 8:56 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
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I laughed at this before and will again. Red states just intentionally making things worse for their residents with their full support.
These Red states WILL have the last laugh, and not at the expense of "people dying in the streets", either.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 8:57 am to bamafan1001
The survival of the Republic depends on an educated and healthy populace. People who are educated and healthy and have opportunity to succeed on the basis of their merits are the foundation of a strong and healthy republic.
So provide health care and education and opportunity and the Republic will thrive.
So provide health care and education and opportunity and the Republic will thrive.
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