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Until any team passes any of the Big Six in either SEC championships or National Titles won while in the SEC, no changes to Big Six are warranted.

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Is that not a pretty irrelevant standard. Like what good are the trophies in the case, really, if you’ve had five straight losing seasons?

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Kidding aside, aren’t the big six just the teams that have won an SEC championship game?

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Perhaps. All but Georgia had a recent-ish natties. UT’s being way back 1998 was definitely a point of discussion.

The Big 6 has been an important concept in SEC football since at least the early 2000s. It was the idea that the conference had six elite programs that had elite talent, elite resources, elite fan support and could compete for a title year to year and six (and later 8) that couldn’t.

The Big Six were Georgia, Auburn, Tennessee, Florida, Bama, and LSU.


My question is two part: 1) how would you rank all 16 schools according to program prestige and 2) Which of these programs do you consider elite?

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Maybe Golding can ride Kiffins success for another year or two, but do you honestly believe playoff contention is the new norm in Oxford?

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I think that Kiffin has very clearly raised the floor and cieling at Ole Miss—especially in the NIL era. Winning takes good coaches and talented players and while any sane person would expect some regression at OM, the program has the money and organization to compete at a high level.

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And your delusion that his first month has been rocky?? Just shows how scorned you all are still. It was insane how he kept our Defensive staff and class together. He brought over the main pieces he wanted on O since we already have the better defensive staff...and that is just the truth.

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I’m primarily coming at this from Kiffin’s point of view. My main argument was that this was a can’t lose situation for LSU but it’s not going as well as Kiffin thought it would.

Kiffin thought:

1) He’d be coaching Ole Miss in the playoffs.

2) He’d get to use that run to build his brand and recruit Ole Miss’s roster and staff.

3) He’d take most of his staff to Baton Rouge. He got more than half and he had to fight like hell for Weiss and Smith.

4) Ole Miss’s playoffs would be a failure without him

5) He’d be able to destroy the program he built on the way out (an annual rival)

6) He wouldn’t be villainized by the media for leaving his team.

7) Friends in Oxford would still like him for some reason???

None of this came to fruition and he’s very publicly in his feelings about it regardless of how rightfully excited LSU people are about the future.

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Defense had a downward trajectory after he took over at Bama. I doubt he voluntarily left without a nudge from Nick to take the same position at Ole Miss.

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Hardly relevant when his defenses at Ole Miss have been 6th, 1st, and 5th in the SEC in scoring the last three years. People like to clown this year’s defense but they lost nine starters—4 to the NFL. He’s clearly a good DC at minimum. And coordinators who spend that much time under Saban typically turn out to be solid head coaches.

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As did many of his staff, despite desperate attempts to double their salaries (allegedly).

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Kiffin’s staff in Oxford was elite. I’m just glad we kept the ones we did. Kiffin would have taken them all to BR if he could have.

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Ole Miss fans constantly whining about things like this

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What am I whining about? At the very least this is schadenfreude or cope.

But it’s gone about as poorly as possible so far.


Let me explain: Lane Kiffin was far and away the best coach available in the carousel. His pedigree, his brand, his offensive mind, and what he’s been able to accomplish at Ole Miss is nothing short of elite. Kiffin went 55-19 in six seasons at Ole Miss—50-14 outside of a 5-5 year one rebuild during COVID. Over that same period, LSU had its worst run since the Dinardo years—47-30. LSU needed a home run hire badly and they got it. Bonus points for gutting an annual rival in the process.

But boy did Kiffin’s divorce from Ole Miss go badly. He thought he could leave for LSU and coach Ole Miss in the playoffs and when Ole Miss AD Keith Carter destroyed that pipe dream, Kiff tried to go scorched earth. This backfired.

He told his coaches to get on the jet immediately or they wouldn’t have a job. A few did, while others stayed. He wanted to torpedo Ole Miss’s chance of hosting a playoff game so he had friendly media folks circulate stories of the committee giving Ole Miss the FSU treatment. In the end the committee didn’t punish Ole Miss for Kiffin’s sins and he had to reverse course and pretend that he was allowing assistants to return out of noblesse oblige when he really had no say in the matter.

Ole Miss drew Tulane—ensuring that Ole Miss’s first ever playoff game would be a victory parade for a special season that Kiffin missed despite working so hard for it. Worse yet, the media shredded Kiff for leaving a playoff team. Now Ole Miss has been to the playoffs, Kiffin still hasn’t and you can tell that it’s wearing on him. He should be competing for a national championship right now, not doing interviews while his future team loses the Texas Bowl.

The LSU team he’s inherited also looks like a tougher rebuild than he thought he was getting. Kiff seems stressed, a shell of his best self right now. He’s been bad in interviews and tweeting through it in his free time. I don’t think it’s a forgone conclusion that he’ll regain momentum in time for the transfer portal and if he doesn’t, the rebuild in BR could take some time. He’s a great coach but it took him time to build the machine at Ole Miss and it might at LSU too

In conclusion, LSU hired an elite head coach, which is the only way to compete for championships. At the same time, it’s been a rocky first month and LSU fans may need to show a little patience if they want the Kiffin era to really work.

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Ole Miss hiring Frank Wilson.

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To coach running backs and recruit lol.