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re: “Principled Conservatives,” What Are Your Serious Ideas For The Budget & Debt?

Posted on 9/10/26 at 7:27 pm to
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
14016 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 7:27 pm to
Welp, the 60% of us that pay taxes should stop. Have a convention of states and vote to make it manditory to balance it through an amendment to the constitution. Most states do. Burn the printers and grow some balls and inforce it.

What are they going to do?

Actually, I think its to late or, maybe its like climate change and it's not real.

Why is the US citizen the only one worried about it, those fricks sure are not.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
482481 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 7:27 pm to
GWB's SS plan would have been the most impactful spending policy in multiple decades
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
25106 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 7:40 pm to
The only hope is to grow our GDP, which depends on Trump’s/America First momentum to continue thru midterms and tbe '28 election.

If/when the Marxist Dems regain control, we are done.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
15089 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 7:42 pm to
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who are generally more responsible and accountable than Congress.


Is there data to back that up?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
482481 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 7:43 pm to
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The only hope is to grow our GDP,


We can't grow our way out of our spending hole. That math doesn't work.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
25106 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 7:44 pm to
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What are your serious ideas and proposals?

Or are you just a color commentator?



SFP has no solutions. He's a bright guy but lacks ANY character or principle.
All his fragile ego can comprehend is whatever opinion/view which offers the best chance at him appearing to be above others.
What a fricking waste.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
482481 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 7:44 pm to
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SFP has no solutions.

I stated my solutions.

Selling fiscal conservatism, especially to former conservatives promoting leftist/populist economics, is the only hope.

Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
25106 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 7:46 pm to
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quote:
The only hope is to grow our GDP,


We can't grow our way out of our spending hole. That math doesn't work.



Please, lol.... share with us what makes your view of economics superior to Trump or Bessent.....
Lol..... geez, I would love to sit down with you, share a beer and look into your shallow soul and discuss.
Despite the fact that we probably live within 20 minutes of one another, you would never agree.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
100304 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 7:47 pm to
Im not a populist

And Massie doesnt do anything but cry and votes with Dems to raise debt ceilings which is what true conservatives do

Muh scorecard tho!!!!
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
482481 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 7:48 pm to
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Please, lol.... share with us what makes your view of economics superior to Trump or Bessent.....


Hauser’s Law

Tax receipts will be between 20-25% of GDP

Calculate our deficit spending, multiple by 4-5 and see how much our GDP has to grow.

Assuming we're at $2T this year, that means to break even we need our GDP to get $8-10T larger. Our current GDP is about $32.5T
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
160097 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 7:50 pm to
What about the same question for unprincipled conservatives?
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
21141 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 7:51 pm to
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Put power and budget back in the hands of State governments, who are generally more responsible and accountable than Congress. This includes the Repeal of the 17th Amendment.


Take the budget for each program, reduce it by a third and then allocate to the states based on a census of US citizens, not the population. Florida would feast, NY, Cali and IL would scream.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
100304 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 7:52 pm to
As an unprincipled conservative like your cult leader what are your solutions retardgator?
Posted by lsuconnman
Baton rouge
Member since Feb 2007
5663 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 7:53 pm to
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Hauser’s Law Tax receipts will be between 20-25% of GDP Calculate our deficit spending, multiple by 4-5 and see how much our GDP has to grow. Assuming we're at $2T this year, that means to break even we need our GDP to get $8-10T larger. Our current GDP is about $32.5T


Historically, the way to accomplish that is to lay waste to a continent and then charge them to rebuild it.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
41721 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 7:57 pm to
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SFP has no solutions.


His open border mindset would cost America more money than any of his debt ideas.

Definition of stepping over a dollar to pick up a dime
Posted by Free888
Member since Oct 2019
3494 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 7:57 pm to
-Complete overhaul of welfare, requiring work requirements
-Student loans become private
-Inact law that says spending can’t be greater than 25% of GDP initially, with cap over time that says spending can’t be more than 1.5x tax receipts, dropping over 10 years to 1x
-Up to 25% of social security tax receipts can be invested in equity
-Eliminate FICA cap
-Eliminate social security payments for anyone with annual income >$1 million
-Eliminate carry rule for VC/private equity
-Tax loans against securities (Bezos rule) as income
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
482481 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 7:58 pm to
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His open border mindset would cost America more money than any of his debt ideas.

Open borders....only when we eliminate entitlements

You're wrong, as usual. Entitlements + the military create our deficit
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
18236 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 8:01 pm to
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What are your serious, realistic ideas and proposals for balancing the budget and paying down the debt (assuming you actually believe in those issues) that people would support and that stand a genuine chance of being passed through Congress into actual law and policy?


We can't even get soda and snack cakes banned from SNAP. Real reforms are now a pipe dream and also would only affect actual taxpayers and leave the freeloaders with their entitlements in place.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
50159 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 8:09 pm to
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e've reached the point where that is probably not enough to get us to a balanced budget. We aren't growing out of this. You'd probably need to cut defense spending by 20 percent before your 2.5 percent idea is implemented. And you'd need to generate significantly more revenue.


Why is it that so many of you always go to defense when cuts are discussed. Look I am not saying there is not fat to be trimmed in the dept of war, but there are plenty of other places to make cuts also. There are plenty of of stuff to cut along with streamlining military to make a difference and put a dent in this thing.
This post was edited on 9/10/26 at 8:15 pm
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
77495 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 8:09 pm to
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We have to get professed conservatives back on the fiscal conservative platform or else there is nothing we can do.


All politicians spend other peoples money. I will continue to engage that reality.

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