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re: Population growth in the US is becoming stagnant. Should we ban hormonal birth control?

Posted on 7/15/26 at 12:24 am to
Posted by aubie101
Russia
Member since Nov 2010
4219 posts
Posted on 7/15/26 at 12:24 am to
Ban birth control and make abortion a death penalty offense.

Posted by StansberryRules
Member since Aug 2024
5515 posts
Posted on 7/15/26 at 12:53 am to
Immigration does not "offset" native population decline anymore than if someone replaced your family members with random strangers.

People are not interchangeable cogs
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
175325 posts
Posted on 7/15/26 at 1:02 am to
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I still don’t understand how a declining population is a problem

You need tax payers

And you need consumers

A declining population not only makes paying for the services the elderly consume impossible it also enforces demand destruction and kills the economy.

If you don't understand these things you should probably do some more learning. We all have much to learn but these are pretty basic things.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
12940 posts
Posted on 7/15/26 at 6:47 am to
Explain to me why we need more people considering what is coming with AI, Automation, and Advanced Robotics also taking into account that we have 30 to 40 million Illegal Immigrants here who are popping out an insane amount of anchor babies? Make it make sense.
Posted by Deuces
The bottom
Member since Nov 2011
16995 posts
Posted on 7/15/26 at 7:04 am to
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A nd what happens ~10 years after that when the biggest generation in history starts retiring en masse/declining productivity with no historically gigantic generation coming up behind them to support them and the rest of society?


The biggest thing people who parrot this talking point are missing is AI picking up much of the slack.
Posted by Deuces
The bottom
Member since Nov 2011
16995 posts
Posted on 7/15/26 at 7:05 am to
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and having and raising kids is not always fun.


But you must do it, right?
Posted by Deuces
The bottom
Member since Nov 2011
16995 posts
Posted on 7/15/26 at 7:08 am to
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It’s a selfish and empty life


Because you say it is?
Posted by B747Tiger
Member since Jul 2026
382 posts
Posted on 7/15/26 at 7:18 am to
You people are missing the entire point of the thread.

The sinister evil reasoning behind banning birth control has very little to to with population growth.

The only control women should have over their reproductive systems is deciding who they frick and when they frick them. Not, “I’ll take a pill and spread my legs for everyone with no consequences.”

Then they go to college and get “educated.” They water down the degrees. They enter the job market and water down the wages. Then the biological clock starts ticking so they find a man and quit taking the pill and get pregnant. Many of them quit their jobs or at least switch to part time to be stay at home moms. So now we’ve educated, hired and trained a person to do a job for about 10 years. If that person had been a man he would more than likely stay in the workforce until retirement.

Posted by B747Tiger
Member since Jul 2026
382 posts
Posted on 7/15/26 at 7:25 am to
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Because you say it is?


In my experience, women who prioritize career and travel over having a family are miserable people by their mid 30’s when the biological clock starts ticking and are desperate to start having babies.
Posted by WaltWhite504
Member since Sep 2021
2140 posts
Posted on 7/15/26 at 7:31 am to
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The problem isn’t that the population is lower. The problem is that the population becomes OLDER. Older people can’t work and need younger people to take care of them.


The problem isn't necessarily that the population is smaller. The real challenge is the ratio of producers to dependents.

Historically, societies have needed a growing working-age population because human labor was the primary source of economic output. As the population aged, more retirees depended on relatively fewer workers to support pensions, healthcare, and the broader economy.

But AI and robotics could fundamentally change that equation.

If a single worker can produce several times more economic value through AI assistance and automation, then we simply won't need as many workers to maintain or even increase economic output. The key variable becomes productivity per worker rather than the absolute number of workers.

I think about this when I visit my parents in assisted living. Many of the jobs I see today could look very different within the next decade. AI will likely handle much of the administrative work, monitor residents' health, coordinate medications, optimize staffing, and assist caregivers. Outside those facilities, we may see autonomous vehicles, AI managing routine finances and shopping, robots working farms and factories, and automated logistics delivering goods rapidly with minimal human labor.

Human work itself may also evolve. Rather than retiring completely at 65, people could remain economically productive much longer because AI reduces the physical and cognitive burden of many professions. A 70-year-old engineer, physician, or consultant might work remotely from home for ten hours a week, supported by AI systems that allow them to produce as much value as an entire team does today.

If that future materializes, the demographic conversation changes. Instead of assuming that every retiree requires a growing number of younger workers, we may find that fewer, more productive workers—and older adults remaining active in the workforce longer—are enough to support society.

In that scenario, stable or even modestly declining population growth could become economically sustainable. The challenge would no longer be maximizing the number of workers, but maximizing the productivity of each worker while keeping people healthy enough to contribute for more years.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
41661 posts
Posted on 7/15/26 at 7:32 am to
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I don't really care about having the largest and strongest economy in the world. Having that gets you where we are now.


Please let us know which country you'd prefer to live in.
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
6330 posts
Posted on 7/15/26 at 7:35 am to
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Should we ban hormonal birth control?


only for white women
Posted by 1801
Charleston
Member since Aug 2012
8838 posts
Posted on 7/15/26 at 7:37 am to
more people are dying - especially since 2020 - wonder why?

https://incendar.com/united-states-births-per-year-1901-to-present.php

1989-2011 - a 23 year run of 4M+ births per year - US has not surpassed 4M per year since - the decrease in actual births right around 400K less per - congratulations to PP and the Margaret Sanger cultists -

eta - Plan B pill first introduced in 1999 - became more accessible around 2009 -
This post was edited on 7/15/26 at 7:39 am
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
6330 posts
Posted on 7/15/26 at 7:40 am to
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I think the majority of birth rates from Americans are from white trash people and ghetto people


Actually its from Mormons, Catholics, and Latinos
Worldwide Muslims have far and away the highest birth rate

Black birth rates are in decline
Posted by WaltWhite504
Member since Sep 2021
2140 posts
Posted on 7/15/26 at 7:56 am to
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Black birth rates are in decline


2 out of 3 clinical abortions in Louisiana were young black women living in poverty.

The last census was the same year abortion was eliminated,

It will be interesting to see the numbers in 2030.
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
14428 posts
Posted on 7/15/26 at 9:23 am to
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Were also not allowing enough White European immigration to keep up with legal Asian immigration


It's not a lack of allowing European immigration, but a lack of desire for Europeans to immigrate. They are in low cost of living countries that have large social programs, they have no incentive to leave for the US on a mass scale. Right or wrong, if it's all you have known then switching to a US lifestyle isn't that attractive, generally.

Conversely, the Big Tech oligarchy will never allow their pool of cheap labor to be cut off from Asia until AI is at a level the labor isn't needed anymore.

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Illegal saturation with its Birthright implications


Unless there is incentives for middle class families to have more children, the best hope for population growth is to encourage migration from Latin American countries, but they are currently the boogeyman de jour. They mostly have lived through 70 years of failed socialism, generally socially conservative, Catholic or Christian as a whole, and generally hard working. Essentially they are what people want the Western Europeans to be.
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