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re: Pfizer efficacy down to 42% while FDA standard for safe/effective/approval is 50%
Posted on 8/11/21 at 7:34 am to jimmy the leg
Posted on 8/11/21 at 7:34 am to jimmy the leg
There's actually quite a bit of research on this subject for both covid and other mRNA vaccines.
But think about it; both an infection and a vaccine are intended to do one thing: produce an immune response and generate antibodies. You can read about how these work in vivo here: LINK
But think about it; both an infection and a vaccine are intended to do one thing: produce an immune response and generate antibodies. You can read about how these work in vivo here: LINK
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Posted on 8/11/21 at 7:38 am to AUstar
Malta, Gibraltar, Israel, Iceland, and many others all disagree. In these nations, most hospitalized cases are vaccinated. They are also the most vaccinated nations in the world and that corresponds to a huge spike in cases and hospitalizations. I'm tired of having real world examples disprove everything that the US Govt agencies say, yet ignore these real world examples to the contrary.
Meanwhile, Sweden...
Meanwhile, Sweden...
Posted on 8/11/21 at 7:51 am to Revelator
There was an article out saying Pfizer has dropped to 40 something % while Moderna holds at 80% 6 months after second shot.
Pfizer is looking to be a disappointing vaccine and probably why Israel is getting rekt right now. They vaccinated everyone very early and with Pfizer.
If you’re the vaccinating sort, any boosters should probably be Moderna.
Pfizer is looking to be a disappointing vaccine and probably why Israel is getting rekt right now. They vaccinated everyone very early and with Pfizer.
If you’re the vaccinating sort, any boosters should probably be Moderna.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 7:51 am to AUstar
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the beauty of mRNA is they can quickly tweak it for new variants
Was indefinite booster shots part of the deal? Once again the credibility of jabbers are thrown out the window
Posted on 8/11/21 at 7:53 am to Bourre
Yeah why get a flu vaccine every year? Checkmate, atheists.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 8:09 am to Tiguar
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Yeah why get a flu vaccine every year?
I have never had a flu shot,I am still alive.
Should I be dead now???
While I support anyone wanting the jab, you are not very wise if you get it after an infection. Any covid survivors should sit tight until they come out with better options.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 8:36 am to Jack Daniel
Just like the flu. You may get vaxxed that year and get covid cause of different strain that year.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 8:36 am to shell01
That article and the studies are horseshite.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 8:43 am to shell01
Posted on 8/11/21 at 8:47 am to John McClane
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Facts schmacts
From the article he screenshotted:
The mRNA vaccine from Pfizer (PFE.N) and BioNTech (22UAy.DE) may be less effective than Moderna's against the Delta variant of the coronavirus, according to two reports posted on medRxiv on Sunday ahead of peer review. In a study of more than 50,000 patients in the Mayo Clinic Health System, researchers found the effectiveness of Moderna's vaccine against infection had dropped to 76% in July - when the Delta variant was predominant - from 86% in early 2021. Over the same period, the effectiveness of the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine had fallen to 42% from 76%, researchers said. While both vaccines remain effective at preventing COVID hospitalization, a Moderna booster shot may be necessary soon for anyone who got the Pfizer or Moderna vaccines earlier this year, said Dr. Venky Soundararajan of Massachusetts data analytics company nference, who led the Mayo study.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 8:49 am to Shaft Williams
Pfizer is turning out to be trash
moderna still okay
natural immunity is far superior (if you wanna *risk* catching covid)
I knew as soon as all midwits on the ot lounge started preaching about vaccinations that the wisest decision was to do the opposite
moderna still okay
natural immunity is far superior (if you wanna *risk* catching covid)
I knew as soon as all midwits on the ot lounge started preaching about vaccinations that the wisest decision was to do the opposite
Posted on 8/11/21 at 8:55 am to Shaft Williams
quote:Oh for frick sakes people!
Pfizer efficacy down to 42%
Posted on 8/11/21 at 8:57 am to rocket31
Pfizer will probably end up being “ok” after boosting. The response to a third challenge will illicit a very strong, lasting immune response.
The joke is giving everyone a vaccine and then still locking down etc. Slowing the spread long enough for vaccine immunity to wane instead of letting it burn out while immunization is at its peak.
The joke is giving everyone a vaccine and then still locking down etc. Slowing the spread long enough for vaccine immunity to wane instead of letting it burn out while immunization is at its peak.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 9:00 am to Shaft Williams
How long does it take to start hearing Moderna jabs is causing the variants?
Posted on 8/11/21 at 9:01 am to BurntOrangeMan
Today, apparently. Get on the wire and sound the alarm, patriot!
Posted on 8/11/21 at 9:05 am to rocket31
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I knew as soon as all midwits on the ot lounge started preaching about vaccinations that the wisest decision was to do the opposite
Yeah, those largely unvaccinated hospitalizations and ICU’s are really proving them wrong
Posted on 8/11/21 at 9:24 am to jimmy the leg
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Here is the CDC link to that “study.”
Wrong study dumbass. Try this one LINK
246 confirmed reinfections, compared to 492 case-matched residents.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 9:34 am to Tiguar
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The joke is giving everyone a vaccine and then still locking down etc. Slowing the spread long enough for vaccine immunity to wane instead of letting it burn out while immunization is at its peak.
indeed
Posted on 8/11/21 at 9:36 am to tigerskin
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those largely unvaccinated hospitalizations and ICU’s are really proving them wrong
most of the people hospitalized in Israel are vaccinated.. so now what?
Posted on 8/11/21 at 9:37 am to Landmass
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Malta, Gibraltar, Israel, Iceland, and many others all disagree. In these nations, most hospitalized cases are vaccinated. They are also the most vaccinated nations in the world and that corresponds to a huge spike in cases and hospitalizations. I'm tired of having real world examples disprove everything that the US Govt agencies say, yet ignore these real world examples to the contrary.
Meanwhile, Sweden...
You understand that as vaccinated population percentages go up, the opporuntity for vaccinated people that have break through infections go up....right?
We know that the vaccine doesn't entirely prevent you from contracting the the disease....more so with the delta variant. Why is any of this a surprise to you?
Intelligence around all of this grows and changes over time. That doesn't mean we're being lied to.
This post was edited on 8/11/21 at 9:44 am
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