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re: Pennsylvania Final Early Vote Data

Posted on 11/4/24 at 9:07 am to
Posted by shinerfan
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Posted on 11/4/24 at 9:07 am to
We still don't know just how much the GOP has cannabilized election day turnout. Hopefully, the big increase in early voting was new voters but we'll find out tomorrow. Like another poster mentioned the big question is how deeply Trump will cut into union members. That's what makes a landslide.
Posted by TakingStock
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 11/4/24 at 9:07 am to
I see TRUMP winning PA by 3%.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40605 posts
Posted on 11/4/24 at 9:07 am to
quote:

Good question. I'm just trusting Mark Halperin on his 500K Democrat PA firewall number. I'm sure he's explained it but I have not heard it.


Guys, it's proportional to overall vote. I think we're expecting a lot less total votes in 2024 than 2020.

Therefore, your blue firewall doesn't need to be as big because there are also less red votes remaining proportionally.
Posted by jaytothen
Member since Jan 2020
8368 posts
Posted on 11/4/24 at 9:08 am to
quote:

does not see how they win Pennsylvania


We love our Amish, don't we? We have the best, the Amish are simply the best.
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 11/4/24 at 9:08 am to
just win nevada and NH and none of this blue cheating wall shite even matters.
Posted by Festus
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 11/4/24 at 9:09 am to
quote:

Anyway, the Democrat firewall in PA is ~90,000 votes short

Dems in PA can make that up during a smoke break.
Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
12830 posts
Posted on 11/4/24 at 9:09 am to
It’s hard to understand how democrats feel they can win the state when it was so close last time and now republicans are 700,000 votes ahead of the last election. If I was Harris and didn’t have a cheat set up I would be panicking.
Posted by Rip Torner
Member since Jul 2023
1253 posts
Posted on 11/4/24 at 9:10 am to
You don’t understand how voter turnout is lower when there is no enthusiasm to vote for a candidate? Really?! It happens all the time with unpopular candidates
Posted by Tiger985
Member since Nov 2006
7487 posts
Posted on 11/4/24 at 9:10 am to
This is sort of rough estimation.

The official PA data, to be released by the state, was due this morning but was delayed until this afternoon.

Read into that what you will.

My suspicion is the data will look more favorable for Democrats than it should.

Read into that what you will.
This post was edited on 11/4/24 at 9:12 am
Posted by Geauxldilocks
Member since Aug 2018
5545 posts
Posted on 11/4/24 at 9:11 am to
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Draw your own conclusions.


Philly precincts going to have to report 110% plus turnout to push it over the top for Kamala. She’s done you can’t rig it that obvious without even MSM questioning the validity.
Posted by Longhorn Actual
Member since Dec 2023
2911 posts
Posted on 11/4/24 at 9:11 am to
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he does not see how they win Pennsylvania


Never underestimate the left’s willingness to do whatever it takes to gain/remain in power. They do not have moral constraints as do you and I.
Posted by Swamp Frog x
Member since Nov 2024
817 posts
Posted on 11/4/24 at 9:11 am to
That is amazing numbers for Trump. I kept waiting for a late city dump to get them close to 500k but I guess it wasn’t there. Even with Harris winning early vote independents their firewall is no more than 470k. Closer to 1.2 mil with independents in 2020.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 11/4/24 at 9:12 am to
quote:

Anyway, the Democrat firewall in PA is ~90,000 votes short according to Halperin's magic number of 500K the Democrats need in early voting.


The part that still worries me is 90,000 votes can be manufactured in Philly.
Posted by wareagle7298
Birmingham
Member since Dec 2013
3571 posts
Posted on 11/4/24 at 9:15 am to
quote:

The part that still worries me is 90,000 votes can be manufactured in Philly.


90000 is beyond their ability.
Posted by slapahoe
USA
Member since Sep 2009
7476 posts
Posted on 11/4/24 at 9:18 am to
What was the firewall in '16 compared to '20?
Posted by OldManRiver
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2005
7409 posts
Posted on 11/4/24 at 9:19 am to
quote:

I’d like to know the true number of Amish that are voting for the first time.

quote:

A report from Elizabethtown College estimated 90,000 Amish live in Pennsylvania and 84,000 live in Ohio, in addition to sizeable populations in Indiana, Wisconsin, New York and Missouri.

Smucker said there were 1,500-2,000 new voter registrants in his district who are Amish, adding he expects thousands more to cast ballots this cycle.


Smucker is Rep. Lloyd Smucker, the first Amish born member of Congress.
Posted by TheOtherWhiteMeat
Fort Smith
Member since Nov 2009
20514 posts
Posted on 11/4/24 at 9:21 am to
500k is just for her to be in the realm of winning. It's likely closer to 600k for it to be a sure win. They can't manufacture enough votes to win that without drawing a lot of attention even by the MSM. It's not happening.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
100763 posts
Posted on 11/4/24 at 9:21 am to
quote:

don’t see how they had a 1M vote firewall and barely won and yet now we think they only needed 500k


The 500k was based on independents going 70/30 in favor of Harris LOL

In reality they needed at least a 800k firewall assuming a normal independent split
Posted by OldManRiver
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2005
7409 posts
Posted on 11/4/24 at 9:22 am to
quote:

What was the firewall in '16 compared to '20?

I don't think it existed, didn't PA basically not have early voting until right before 2020? That was the big deal, they basically overrode the state constitution and just created mail in voting out of thin air because of COVID?
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Member since Mar 2009
89375 posts
Posted on 11/4/24 at 9:24 am to
quote:

quote:
Anyway, the Democrat firewall in PA is ~90,000 votes short


Dems in PA can make that up during a smoke break.


trump was up 800,000 last time and then came the 3 AM dumps and wiped it out. blatant fraud. have to out vote them on election day. hopefully all the dems stay home if they did not vote early. each hour it takes them top count their votes past midnight i am filing lawsuit after lawsuit. late counting is how they cheated last time.
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